Posts by TMS

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Out of the mouths of babes

by mrsjones5 in

this morning at the breakfast table my eight year old daugther asked if my mother went to church.

i told her yes and they call it a kingdom hall.

my oldest son (he's twelve) pipes in "yeah, it's a boring place.

no offense intended for the anointed ones on this board, but ive always compared such professed ones to martin jensen, who professed nothing for himself except that he wasnt good for much.. this iowa corn farmer became a jw in the 40s, was promptly divorced by his wife, and moved to the southern tip of texas, the end of the world.

by default he became the presiding overseer of the english unit, although he never gave a public talk.

there were many unsuccessful attempts over the years to replace him with a more suitable shepherd.

TMS

My apologies for resurrecting a 5 year old thread, but like Ricky Ricardo may have implied: "I got some 'splainin' to do."

I wrote this thread in anger. I had just attended my brother-in-laws' funeral and had been subjected to one of the most gawdawful witness funeral talks you could imagine. Nothing about the deceased, just a scripture-flipping, mind-numbing whirlwind through witness beliefs. What really grates at me is not the talk, but the fact that I actually gave a feeble congrats to the speaker afterwards. You always regret the things you did not say, did not do. Believe me, I have a lifetime of such regrets.

tms

ps: Martin, of course, was not my bro-in-law. I started thinking about witness funerals in general and my thought drifted to Martin's. Don't know if any of this makes sense.

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(PET FLUFF) ----May have my Doberman by next week

by restrangled in

jw
friends

i know most of you could care less, but for those of us who love dobes, this is a pretty big deal.. i am trying to adopt a 6 year old pure bread intact male who sounds like a gem..my boys are so excited.. the owner should be coming this weekend to drop her dogs and see how i do with them.

i am beside myself with joy at this point.

she has chosen me out of all who responded in florida.. please wish me luck!.

TMS

I have a pretender: a min pin. I doubt seriously if he would back down from a doberman or an aircraft carrier if his master were threatened.

tms

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Are There Any Worthy Non-Watchtower Charities?

by TMS in

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friends

jehovah's witnesses are subtly discouraged from contributing to any charities other that the watchtower society.

while acknowledging that groups other that the wt may do "some good", jw's may feel that charitable groups are generally dishonest, wasteful or simply not doing things "jehovah's way.".

now, as an ex-jw, have you found any charities worthy of your monetary support?

TMS

Jehovah's Witnesses are subtly discouraged from contributing to any charities other that the Watchtower Society. While acknowledging that groups other that the WT may do "some good", JW's may feel that charitable groups are generally dishonest, wasteful or simply not doing things "Jehovah's way."

Now, as an ex-JW, have you found any charities worthy of your monetary support?

I will submit one, but I know there are many others.

Innocence Project, Inc.100 Fifth Ave
Third Floor
New York,NY 10011 http://www.innocenceproject.org

tms

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NEW Interview with Bill Bowen of Silentlambs on recent events

by Dogpatch in

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friends

the last interview i did with bill bowen was in april of 2003, and new things have happened regarding the pedophile issues in the watchtower's corrupt system led by ted jaracz and his corporate cronies.

some things are the same (mainly wt policies), and others have changed.

it took 10 years to develop some legal precendents to be laid down in order for lawsuits against the catholic priest pedophiles to move ahead, and some important legal precedents have now been established in court so as to pave the road for effective lawsuits against the watchtower leaders for their complicity in allowing pedophiles to remain in the congregations in good standing, some even as elders.

TMS

Thanks Randy, Bill

tms

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Remember when KH's had a piano and real singing?

by WingCommander in

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friends

the thread about got me thinking about my very early childhood, back when witnesses were allowed to be social and have get togethers.

they also had a piano in every congregation i ever attended, and an older sister would always play the kingdom melody.

there was actual singing - not mindless droning and humming.

TMS

As PaNiCAtTaCk related the granting or retracting of the piano-playing privilege was a source of contention in congregations over and above M.S. or elder appointments.

Old Sister McKinney in the black congregation in Little Rock never forgave the young upstart elder from New York who took away her piano privileges for an "unsubmissive attitude". She used a slang, derogatory name to refer to Bro. Perkins. Sister McKinney had been the "Company Servant" in the Little Rock East Congregation in the 40's before qualified brothers became available.

Sister Hilliard in North Little Rock never got over having her piano privileges revoked when her and her elder husband separated "unscripturally" never to divorce or remarry.

The record/cassette/CD playing was certainly less spontaneous, but the regulating of piano-playing privileges in many congregations was a real pain in the proverbial ass. Balancing piano skill, nepotism, "spirituality", congregation politics, etc. was an impossible task.

tms

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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Be Allowed to Adopt Children?

by TMS in

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friends

religion, race, sexual orientation etc.

are not legal barriers to adoption in most areas.

but knowing what you know now, if you were part of the decision-making process, would you be inclined to facillitate jw's to adopt?

TMS

Mulan,

What I would give now to have been one of those liberal, realistic, non-fanatical JW's I now read about on this forum. I grew up actually proud of my lack of academic achievement, financial success and material possessions.

The only thing we passed on to our now mid-thirties son is that nothing mattered while in this system except "serving Jehovah."

The JW's you describe who successfully raised adopted children I respect greatly. That does not change my view that JW's in general, because of the belief system in place and the Pharisaical rules they live by are generally not good candidates for adoption.

tms

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Coffee time with the dubs - Where did you go?

by truthseeker in

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to name a few that are popular with my old congregation.... .

dunkin' donuts.

quik chek.

TMS

A Little Rock Mexican restaurant ran a lunch coupon in the Arkansas Gazette for a $1.99 lunch special. We pioneers would hit the place about 11.00 am with our clipped coupons. We would order the lunch special and water. About 45 minutes later we would find a quick return visit to "round out our time" for the morning.

tms

ps. I think we all ate $1.99 worth of chips and salsa before the lunch specials were served.

50

Do you look your age?

by Virgochik in

how many of you guys are like me?

raised in the truth, (or joined later), but here we are, finding ourselves in our thirties, forties, or fifties....and the end hasn't come.

we were never supposed to get this old!.

TMS

I drink 10 year old whiskey.

tms

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What strange things do your pets like to eat?

by Lady Lee in

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friends

when i was a kid we had a small dog that loved spaghetti with tomato sauce.

he was our witness dog that would sit near the table and wait until after the prayer to start begging for food.. the two cats i had for 12 years loved some really odd things.

i was peeling corn on the cob tonight and missed having them pester me for raw corn niblets.

TMS

My min pin likes the small crabs that poke up in our yard. I strongly discourage him, but he races around the yard looking for "opportunities."

tms