should I tell my Buddy Webber story?
Posts by TMS
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My After Bethel Experience Part 3
by new boy inwe started attending the wakefield r.i. kh after the marriage.
at the first meeting i went to, "buddy" weber came up to greet me.
he had left a very good job in seattle.
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Most Poorly Written JW Book
by JW_Rogue inso i was thinking the other day that the wt corp has produced thousands of books over the years.
although the writers have changed the style is almost always the same.
however, some books are just worse than others.
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TMS
Mankind's Search for God, c.'91, was pretty uneven. After touching briefly on a few religions, it quickly navigated into JW doctrine.
In 1967 I noticed that the Awake! had an article "The Christian View of Rock n Roll" or something similar. I quickly ordered 100 extra copies, expecting some exhaustive probe into the background of the Beatles, Stones, Dylan, backward masking, druggery(remember that word?), but all I got was a lame two pagers saying almost nothing.
Babylon the Great Has Fallen! God's Kingdom Rules, plagiarizing The Two Babylons was a cumbersome book study book, lengthy and requiring an additional question booklet. At that time there was no required number of pages to be covered each week. Some study groups blitzed through the material, leaving others hopelessly behind. Finally, we were told to skip over the first part of the book. Did we ever finish it? I don't recall.
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My Story "Act 2"
by MarkofCane in“it has been said, 'time heals all wounds.
' i do not agree.
the wounds remain.
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TMS
The facility, finesse, care and yes, luck, to successfully extricate a family unit from this high control association is a unique skill set. There is no instruction manual because there are simply too many variables, not to mention that the awareness, the need to depart, also comes gradually.
Of course, if both spouses see reality at nearly the same time, fading or leaving becomes a coordinated effort. In my own case, reading a single chapter of CC online was enough for me to instinctively toss my 1956-96 "Watchtower" and "Awake!" volumes into the dumpster, up to that point my single most valued possession.
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looks like the org. stopped all the "leaks"
by nowwhat? incedars site hasn't had anything new since september when the new mid week meeting was disclosed.
wonder if the moles were caught.
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TMS
Well, it's been a fun ten years thanks to Watchtower dullness. -
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The Watchtower's Most Heinious, Vile Crime
by TMS ini described myself recently as no longer angry.. that was a lie.. i am angry at the way jehovah's witnesses treat their most precious.
endowment; their young, developing, stumbling, exasperating, questioning, experimenting, growing,.
offspring.. at the very most urgent time in their young lives; when they need the.
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TMS
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Cut and Paste of "The List" by Prominent Bethelite of Previous Watchtower Predicted Dates
by TMS in" {watchtower sep 1 1989 12}.
" {tiah 240-1, also references in wr oct 1879 3941, tkic 84}.
'" {zions watchtower mar 1880 repr 82}.
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TMS
It may be time to repost. Perhaps some "newly interested ones have not seen this. More than dates, some interesting views of radium, germs, "Negroes" getting white skin in the new system and other silly ideas.
Personally, I knew about 1914, 1925, 1975, even 1874, but not all the other predicted dates.
tms
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My Personal Proof That Elders Are Not Appointed by Holy Spirit
by TMS inthis topic is not about men living sinfully at the time of their appointment as elders.
it is not about pedophile elders, although i've personally known three, two who were pedophiles at the time of their appointment by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.. first of all a quick summary of what jehovah's witnesses are taught about the appointment of elders and ministerial servants:.
before the visit of the circuit overseer, the local elders meet to consider who, if any, among the local congregation they will recommend as elders or .
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TMS
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Public or Group Prayer As A Weapon
by TMS inone of the sillier notions taught at km schools is the concept of "teaching through prayer.
" the idea is that words supposedly directed to jehovah god through christ jesus are actually aimed at individuals who are in a position to say "amen" to the supplication.
for example, in a judicial setting brother pompous opens the hearing in prayer: "dear jehovah, we ask your blessing on this arrangement.
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TMS
Almost no one could identify with this thread six years ago. -
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The Retractable Dangling Carrot
by TMS insome scattered thoughts about the granting or denial of privileges of service as a control mechanism:.
this method of persuasion involving reward or punishment is so deeply ingrained in watchtower function, it is second nature.
although sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant, everyone from new bible study to traveling overseer is subconsciously aware of the possible limiting of his official opportunities to serve god and his brothers.. .
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TMS
Opening my mail sometime in the spring, my heart would pound seeing a letter from the Watchtower, knowing it was my district assembly speaking assignment. Ripping the letter open, I would quickly scan it to see if the part was something I could "sink my teeth into."
These superfluous perks were not worth the time spent away from family for rehearsals, not to mention the elder duties needed to maintain the privilege, but that was not my mindset at the time.
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The Retractable Dangling Carrot
by TMS insome scattered thoughts about the granting or denial of privileges of service as a control mechanism:.
this method of persuasion involving reward or punishment is so deeply ingrained in watchtower function, it is second nature.
although sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant, everyone from new bible study to traveling overseer is subconsciously aware of the possible limiting of his official opportunities to serve god and his brothers.. .
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TMS
this thread from 14 years ago may or may not be relevant now