Posts by suavojr

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by Theredeemer in

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friends

so, my mother in law who is still active went out in service with the group that had the co visit and came back with some very interesting news.

first off, she knows that we are fading and is ok with it and has some doubts herself.

anyhow, she said that the co went off track during the meeting before service and mentioned how we are now allowed to receive up to 33% of blood in a transfusion.

Another reason why 1914 is WRONG

by EdenOne in

jw
friends

even if 607 had been the actual date of the destruction of jerusalem .... 1914 would still be wrong.

when the wts says that "7 times" equals 2 x 3,5 times of revelation = 2 x 1260 days = 2520 days > one day / one year rule = 2520 years.. now, 2520 / 7 times means that one "time" has 360 "days".

this corresponds to the lunar year.

suavojr

It is so much easier to simply understand the end times began after Jesus left and he will return when ever he has determined.

WHY DO WE INDULGE OURSELVES with so much guess work? I am asking from a JW POV

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SPURIOUS TEACHING!!

by The Searcher in

the spurious teaching that a person's own death wipes out all their sins - based on the ludicrous assertion that romans 6:7 is meant literally!

- not only means means that christ's ransom sacrifice was pointless, (because simply by choking to death on a burger wipes out all your sins) but also benefits repentant people with what's called in the uk, buy one get one free.

(bogof).

suavojr

AGuest, gives us some juicy details with your encounter with Barber and did you tell him he was not from the annointed?....

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! THE FIGHT IS ON

by suavojr in

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while growing up in my jw family, i was proud to stand up for my beliefs.

suavojr

All the apostles quoted from reliable sources, even Jesus quoted from inspired sources.

It is sad when you read this quote from the following Watchtower:

w84 9/1 20-23‏

Would You Spread a Rumor?

Many years ago, Jehovah God told the Israelites: “You shall not spread a baseless rumour.” (Exodus 23:1, The New English Bible) There was good reason for that command. Such rumors have bad results. They make the one spreading them a liar, something Jehovah hates. (Proverbs 6:16-19) They affect the reputation of the subject of the rumor. And they deceive the person who listens to the rumor, perhaps inciting him to act unwisely. (Numbers 13:32–14:4) It is most unloving thus to deceive our friends. It goes against God’s command: “You must not deceive, and you must not deal falsely anyone with his associate.”—Leviticus 19:11; Proverbs 14:25.

Proverbs 14:25

Amplified Bible (AMP)

25 A truthful witness saves lives, but a deceitful witness speaks lies [and endangers lives].

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! THE FIGHT IS ON

by suavojr in

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while growing up in my jw family, i was proud to stand up for my beliefs.

suavojr

All the apostles quoted from reliable sources, even Jesus quoted from inspired sources.

It is sad when you read this quote from the following Watchtower:

w84 9/1 20-23‏

Would You Spread a Rumor?

Many years ago, Jehovah God told the Israelites: “You shall not spread a baseless rumour.” (Exodus 23:1, The New English Bible) There was good reason for that command. Such rumors have bad results. They make the one spreading them a liar, something Jehovah hates. (Proverbs 6:16-19) They affect the reputation of the subject of the rumor. And they deceive the person who listens to the rumor, perhaps inciting him to act unwisely. (Numbers 13:32–14:4) It is most unloving thus to deceive our friends. It goes against God’s command: “You must not deceive, and you must not deal falsely anyone with his associate.”—Leviticus 19:11; Proverbs 14:25.

Proverbs 14:25

Amplified Bible (AMP)

25 A truthful witness saves lives, but a deceitful witness speaks lies [and endangers lives].

7

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! THE FIGHT IS ON

by suavojr in

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while growing up in my jw family, i was proud to stand up for my beliefs.

suavojr

While growing up in my JW family, I was proud to stand up for my beliefs. I felt joy to be part of a special property that belonged to God. I stood up with courage for my beliefs every time I had the opportunity, in school, with friends and non JW friends, while talking to my non JW family, with my neighbors, with teachers. I surely fought the excellent fight against apostates, false brothers, apathy and the lies from other churches.

I have read Macmillan's book, listened to thousands of hours of JW talks, had CO's and DO's stay over for vacation, spent time with special pioneers, visit the WT HQ many times, read, preach, convert, pioneer, give public talks, stay obedient in every sense of the word. Everywhere I went, I wore with pride the name of Jehovah's Witness, not caring about the stigma that comes with such a name.

I have believed because I want to believe... I've been trying hard, extremely hard to believe... believe in this movement that I have been a part of all my life.

FOR WHAT? To be lied to, manipulated and deceived!!!!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! It is time to break off the shackles of deceit and lies. Because I know that Jesus is "the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him" New International Version (©1984) (John 14:6)

While growing up I waited with excitement the fulfillment of all the prophecies during my life time. (The 20th century) My dad went through the 1975 debacle and I was born shortly after that. Names like Ray Franz, Perter Gregerson were popular while growing up in my congregation (which was the first Spanish congregation in a 2 hour radius) My DO was Episcopo himself... the guy who said “you can be sincere but you are still an apostate".

The 80's came along and went, the 90's came along and went, but then in early 2001 people I cared for and loved started dying. My parents youth was vanishing and I was becoming turning into a man. THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN!! Yet we continue to wait on the Watchtower/Jehovah. I suddenly realized without the help of any outsiders, something is wrong and I came to the realization that I too was going to grow old in this system of things.

We had a Zone Visit in the US in October of 2011, one of the higher ups in the WT said something that made me STOP and THINK, he asked: "Are you willing to serve Jehovah even if he tells you that you will die?" "Do you love him with all your heart, to the point that you are willing to serve him for nothing in return?" "Are you grateful to be alive?" These were questions that lingered with me for many months and thus gave me the desire to search deeper, to do what I have never attempted to do, to test and challenge every aspect of my faith.

I took an unbiased approached, I left the prejudiced JW mentality behind, I took my sincere desire to know God and Jesus to the next level.

Months went by after that Zone Visit... in the summer of 2012 I finally had the courage to visit the infamous JWN website, later with skepticism and fear I started researching JWfacts, JWstruggle, JWsurvey and many others. I downloaded Crisis of Conscience and in SoCF, I listened to Dunlap’s tapes, I read The Finished mystery etc… I have been determined to put a good fight against all the arguments I found but I always came in short.

I still had some hope… until I saw this last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_G3U8uC2I&playnext=1&list=PL291E90E2F623C447&feature=results_main

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Has the Governing Body Learned Their Lesson From Longtime Witness A. H. Macmillan,

by frankiespeakin in

to quote the governing body excuse/apology/justification :.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130101/should-you-fear-end-of-world/.

jehovahs witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.

suavojr

I have read "Faith On The March", it does not come even close to the writings of Ray Franz. Although after reading it I do believe A.H Macmillan new the truth behind the WT but did not have the strength or Faith to fight for a change.

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