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  If God knows how we are wired, Why punish people for being gay?

  by suavojr in

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  i just finished reading this story on yahoo, two comments stick out and cannot comprehend why can't we just show true love and stop beign hurtful to our flesh and blood.

  so yes, if god made us and knows how we are wired how can god kill a person for beign gay when they did not choose to be gay?

  why the more religious a person is, the more fanatical?.

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  Djs you said: "If god knows . . . " is a false premise. By believing in this imaginary creature and supposedly the only avenue of guidance form her, the bible, everything then is forced into the god concept (the false premise). Instead of viewing gays, for example, as normal and acceptable, becaue of the false premise from which the argument begins, gays are somehow evil, wicked, doomed for destruction. They can't be right and they can't have been born this way. It has to be a choice. 'cause god . . .

  Thank you for that observation, it is hard for a person like me to think outside the realm of a God. Therefore my false premise is the reason why I can't reconcile the pain and suffering that we cause others just because we are not alike.

  The more a theistic person studies human behavior and the reasons why we do what we do, the less likely a God has anything to do with our way of life. But this false premise still does not cancel the the concept of a God. Only our perception of a God simply changes with the knowledge of the moment. That to me is the challenge of a believer, trying to make sense of book that is looked at as infallible.
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  If God knows how we are wired, Why punish people for being gay?

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just finished reading this story on yahoo, two comments stick out and cannot comprehend why can't we just show true love and stop beign hurtful to our flesh and blood.

  so yes, if god made us and knows how we are wired how can god kill a person for beign gay when they did not choose to be gay?

  why the more religious a person is, the more fanatical?.

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  Good info cofty!

  For example, Who decides what we like to eat, drink or do as hobbies? Why would I be guilty of doing something my body simply feels the need for?
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  If God knows how we are wired, Why punish people for being gay?

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just finished reading this story on yahoo, two comments stick out and cannot comprehend why can't we just show true love and stop beign hurtful to our flesh and blood.

  so yes, if god made us and knows how we are wired how can god kill a person for beign gay when they did not choose to be gay?

  why the more religious a person is, the more fanatical?.

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  suavojr

  I just finished reading this story on Yahoo, two comments stick out and cannot comprehend why can't we just show true love and stop beign hurtful to our flesh and blood.

  So yes, if God made us and knows how we are wired how can God kill a person for beign gay when they did not choose to be gay? Why the more religious a person is, the more fanatical?

  http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/father-disowns-homophobic-daughter-in-epic-letter-230436549.html

  Today in awesome parenting news: A father, who learned that his daughter disowned his grandson because he was gay, responded in the most amazing way.
  Dear Christine,
  
  I’m disappointed in you as a daughter. You’re correct that we have a “shame in the family”, but mistaken about what it is. Kicking Chad out of your home simply because he told you he was gay is the real “abomination” here. A parent disowning her child is what goes “against nature.”The only intelligent thing I heard you saying in all this was that “you didn’t raise your son to be gay." Of course you didn’t. He was born this way and didn’t choose it any more than he being left-handed. You however, have made a choice of being hurtful, narrow-minded and backward.So, while we are in the business of disowning our children, I think I’ll take this moment to say goodbye to you. I now have a fabulous (as the gays put it) grandson to raise, and I don’t have time for heart-less B-word of a daughter. If you find your heart, give us a call. – Dad.
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  "The excitement is PALPABLE"

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
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  got caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years.

  still respects me, not knowing that i am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing.

  anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.. "hey sop, how are you doing?

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  But I bet this meeting will just be just another blown out of proportions JW mini convention
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  "The excitement is PALPABLE"

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  got caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years.

  still respects me, not knowing that i am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing.

  anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.. "hey sop, how are you doing?

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  "Wow," I say, " kinda like when your left arm starts hurting right before a cardiac episode?" (sarcasm has always been strong with my family)

  Now that was funny!!!

  After the so called EVENT my wife made arrangements to go out with a couple from the hall and eat at a nice high-end restaurant. The best part about this EVENT is that I will not go out preaching and Sunday I am going to the beach.
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  Can anybody upload the annual meeting recording already?!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  there has to be atleast one elder here who was given the annual meeting recording, unless it's in some sealed box where every elder in the congregation has 1 key and all must open it at once, assuring nobody opened it prior to the day.

  but if not, if one of you has it, be a boss and upload it already.

  how funny if the whole thing was online 2 days prior.

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  walssofjericho

  I don't beleive that any of the current GB members have the nerve to do anything that would expose them to punishment and shunning.
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  Church Group Dies in Fiery Crash

  by designs in

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  a group of seniors from a baptist church were on their way back from gatlinburg va. where they had preached to the locals.

  their bus blew a tire and veered into traffic catching fire in the accident.

  8 people died and 14 others were injured.. how do people of faith come to terms with those considered faithful meeting such a tragic end and causing the deaths and injury of others.. ap news service.

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  I finally have understood why most people turn atheist.
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  Church Group Dies in Fiery Crash

  by designs in

  1. social
  2. current

  a group of seniors from a baptist church were on their way back from gatlinburg va. where they had preached to the locals.

  their bus blew a tire and veered into traffic catching fire in the accident.

  8 people died and 14 others were injured.. how do people of faith come to terms with those considered faithful meeting such a tragic end and causing the deaths and injury of others.. ap news service.

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  suavojr

  Tragedies like this have no logical explanations and are all dismissed as God's will and that God has allowed some of his servants to die, it is a hard pill to swallow.
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  Can anybody upload the annual meeting recording already?!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there has to be atleast one elder here who was given the annual meeting recording, unless it's in some sealed box where every elder in the congregation has 1 key and all must open it at once, assuring nobody opened it prior to the day.

  but if not, if one of you has it, be a boss and upload it already.

  how funny if the whole thing was online 2 days prior.

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  suavojr

  They will be streaming it live this Saturday at 10am, the event will last for 3:30 hours and then they will have 3 separate events with the pre-recorded meeting.

  Since this year they have invited the Congos I bet many closet apostates will attend, just like me :)
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  CANCELL MY REQUEST FOR MEMBERSHIP I HATE APOSTATES

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lol, just received this email:.

  idiots!

  you of weak minds that have chosen to leave the truth!

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  suavojr

  L3g might be right, maybe someone caught him or she and they needed to prove that they hate apostates. On the other hand if they want out they need to send Simon a signed letter or else our forum will not be clean.