Posts by suavojr

ot law required jews to take the lead in stoning a family member who became apostate.. the watchtower has lamented the fact that the law of the land now forbids them from doing so.. if the law permitted it, as it does in some musim countries, and if the watchtower required it, would your family obey?.

my parents are good people and i believe their love for me is genuine, but i think they would follow orders.. what about yours?.

suavojr

They would stone me to death without remorse or compassion

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Has your trust in charity been shaken lately?

by suavojr in

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excerpt from the wt article, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003401.

jehovahs witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes.

during the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in houston, texas, u.s.a. in all, 723 homes of witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly.

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Excerpt from the WT article, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003401

Jehovah’s Witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes. During the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in Houston, Texas, U.S.A. In all, 723 homes of Witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly. A disaster relief committee made up of qualified Christian elders was immediately formed to assess individual needs and to allocate relief funds to help the local Witnesses to cope with the situation and repair their homes. Willing volunteers from neighboring congregations performed all the work. One Witness was so appreciative of the help that when she received payment from her insurance company to cover the repairs to her house, she immediately donated the money to the relief fund so that it could help others in need.

When it comes to organized charity, though, we need to be cautious as we evaluate the many appeals we receive. Some charities have high administrative or fund-raising costs, leaving only a small portion of the collected money for the intended purpose. Proverbs 14:15 says: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” So it is the course of wisdom to examine the facts carefully.

We all know that if you were a born in JW or a hardcore JW, donating money to any cause other than WT’s cause is a big NO, NO. But the question still remains, why should I give money to foundations when someone at the top is benefiting from my hard earned money? To me is all a scam!

I know that Richard Dawkins has a foundation for example, why should I contribute? I am talking out of ignorance, I know! Unfortunately, I just don’t see the value.

What do you guys think? Is it worth donating? Anyone care to share your experiences.

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Has Anyone Heard Whether The New JW Bible Is Liked As Much As The Old One?

by minimus in

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my mom told me that she, my brother and his wife really didn't like this new bible.. when i asked her why, she said they dropped the headings on the top of the pages and that just wasn't as good.. have you heard any pros and cons about the new good book?.

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Gen 2:7 says a living person??? WoW, talk about a huge change. That is a big verse the JW's use to say we don't have a soul

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Ray Franz - is he REALLY a hero?

by baltar447 in

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on one hand, he's enlightnened many to the internal circle jerk that is the governing body (circa the 70s).. but if there's one reason that can be pointed to for the jws becoming full on cult, it's ray franz.

without him leaving in the manner he did, and stirring the pot, they might not have change the rule (retroatively i might add) on shunning of disassociated ones.

they specifically changed that so they could remove him and eliminate his influence.. his actions single handedly have created the situation where we have to fade, evade, leave marriages, say goodbye to family, just because we don't buy the jw bullsh!t anymore.

suavojr

Quarterback did you mean 1987?

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Nestor and Toni Kuilan in the works of a new book!

by A.proclaimer in

nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .

read a little bit about it here:.

http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.

suavojr

Have fun and looking forward to view the interview. Be careful down south!

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Nestor and Toni Kuilan in the works of a new book!

by A.proclaimer in

nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .

read a little bit about it here:.

http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.

suavojr

Randy,

Where are Cris and Norma?

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My Story

by objectivetruth in

i'm 30 years old, and i was raised in the organization, my parents and grandparents are witnesses.. i grew up in a small town, and due to boredom or adhd or rebellion, i never took 2 minutes to look into the religion.. i always went to meetings and field service.

my parents were regular, but never "super-witnesses" so it was always the thing we did (meetings and service) not much more and nothing less.. the congregation, that i grew up in was for the most part friendly and enjoyable.. small towns, are very unique and they cannot be compared to larger city congregations.. i honk that they are a living and breathing organism, depending on the coordinators personality, so goes the personality of the congregation.

thi king back, most of the people in the town that i grew up were good people, just simple hard working & honest people... i really long for the innocence, of the time when this was the truth, and there were no worries.. driving to the conventions at 3 am with my dad and another brother, them slicing meat, me sneaking around the halls of the college, getting into all kinds of things.. conventions were a really special time for me... when i was young me and my friends would run around, messing around, pulling pranks on people, getting into forbidden areas.. running in the hall ways.

suavojr

thanks for sharing and thank you snare for your comment:

The JW LIFE is a life NOBODY HAS or CAN EVER live up to. That is why they all pretend to! Just nobody admits that they are all pretending. It is such a farce!

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Did the WT ever unofficially ban Kal-El?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

a few years ago avatar was 'demonized' by the wt.

in reality their argument had an extreme ignorance of hinduism and a poor knowledge of modern langauge (avatar means something else nowadays.... ).

but anyway when i was growing up my parents recorded the 4 supermen movies on to video tape as they were played on tv.

suavojr

Some JW's were ranting about Avatar in my area, and then I find out our CO gave a talk about how nice the blue colors looked