Posts by suavojr

Thanks everyone for your support and great tips! I am getting ready now with some of your advise and will try to connect one on one. I will start easy on her and then stop once her cult persona switches on.

Wish me luck...

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My wife is frightened about the end/ What to say without sounding Apostate?

by suavojr in

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my wife called me at work saying she is scared after reading today's daily text.

i don't read it anymore, therefore i went online and found this.. tuesday, march 3 .

those days will be cut short.matt.

suavojr

I want to make it clear, my intention is not to make her claim immediately the WT/JW are a false prophet. I want to help her start thinking for herself and maybe she can find the inner peace she is seeking.

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My wife is frightened about the end/ What to say without sounding Apostate?

by suavojr in

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my wife called me at work saying she is scared after reading today's daily text.

i don't read it anymore, therefore i went online and found this.. tuesday, march 3 .

those days will be cut short.matt.

suavojr

My wife called me at work saying she is scared after reading today's daily text. I don't read it anymore, therefore I went online and found this.

Tuesday, March 3

Those days will be cut short.—Matt. 24:22.

What can we expect will happen during the coming great tribulation? Jehovah will “cut short” the attack of the United Nations on false religion, not allowing true religion to be destroyed with the false. This will ensure that God’s people will be saved. What happens after the initial part of the great tribulation has passed? Jesus’ words indicate that there will be a period of time that will last until the start of Armageddon. What events will occur during that interval? The answer is recorded at Ezekiel 38:14-16 and Matthew 24:29-31. After those events, we will witness Armageddon, the climax of the great tribulation, which parallels Jerusalem’s destruction in 70 C.E. (Mal. 4:1) With the battle of Armageddon as its climax, that coming great tribulation will be unique—an event “such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning.” (Matt. 24:21) When it has passed, Christ’s Millennial Rule will begin. w13 7/15 1:7, 8

I have plenty of information to use but what can I use? She is scared, she wants to study this topic with me. How can I talk with her true identity? I need to keep her cult personality off and help her use her critical thinking abilities. What to do and what to say? I am going to test the waters and plan to talk about the following.

· *** g95 6/22 p. 3 Predictions of the World’s End ***

This article mentions that end times prophecies have been around forever and they've all failed. Goes on to mention William Miller and 1844, mentions Harold Camping and many more. Conveniently they forget to mention their own failures in 1874, 1878, 1914, 1925, 1940s, 1975 and before the 21st century.

Also I was planning to share this footnote,

[Footnotes]

Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.' TheWatchtower, the official journal of Jehovah's Witnesses, has said: "We have not the gift of prophecy." (January 1883, page 425) "Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible." (December 15, 1896, page 306) TheWatchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah's spirit "does not mean those now serving as Jehovah's witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine TheWatchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes." (May 15, 1947, page 157) "TheWatchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic." (August 15, 1950, page 263) "The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18)"-February 15, 1981, page 19.

g93 3/22 pp. 3-4 / Why So Many False Alarms?

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2006 Revelation Its Grand Climax At Hand--PDF!

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2006 revelation its grand climax at hand--pdf!

bookmarked searchable reduced click the link at the bottom of the next page.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/1duzi9 cheers!

suavojr

Thanks for this nice update!

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Re: Local Design/Construction Department Broadcast Highlights

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bullet point #13 is what they want to focus on .

7. construction servant ............................................................................................................................ par.

11. kingdom hall maintenance ............................................................................................................... par.

suavojr

Wingcommander,

Look at how they mentioned him in last Sunday's WT study.

December 2014, Study article Do You Appreciate What You Have Received? paragraph 11.

They make it sound as if Jesus is simply another bible character to consider. They hide the fact that Christianity is all about Christ!

Would not be complete without giving attention to Jesus? Seriously? Without Jesus you would not have any so called truth about the kingdom, no gospels, no hope for a resurrection, no after life, no so called paradise, etc... and they simply alluded to him as a good "example" not "the example", "the truth, the way", you get where I'm going with this.

11 Our consideration of good examples would not be complete without giving attention to Jesus, God’s Son. He received much from his Father, and he truly valued it. That appreciation for what he had been taught is evident in his words: “Just as the Father taught me, I speak these things.” (John 8:28) And it was his desire that others benefit from what he had received. He told the crowds: “I must also declare the good news of the Kingdom of God to other cities, because for this I was sent.” (Luke 4:18, 43) He helped his listeners to see the need for being “no part of the world,” which in general does not value spiritual things.—John 15:19.

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Re: Local Design/Construction Department Broadcast Highlights

by suavojr in

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bullet point #13 is what they want to focus on .

7. construction servant ............................................................................................................................ par.

11. kingdom hall maintenance ............................................................................................................... par.

suavojr

Bullet point #13 is what they want to focus on

Christian Congregation

of Jehovah’s Witnesses

2821 Route 22, Patterson, NY 12563-2237 Phone: (845) 306-1100

2/23/15-E Us

February 23, 2015

TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN THE UNITED STATES BRANCH TERRITORY

Re: Local Design/Construction Department Broadcast Highlights

Table of Contents

Organizational Refinements ................................................................................................................. Par. 2

Kingdom Hall Construction and Renovations ..................................................................................... Par. 5

Construction Groups ............................................................................................................................ Par. 6

Construction Volunteer ........................................................................................................................ Par. 7

Construction Servant ............................................................................................................................ Par. 8

Local Construction Servant .................................................................................................................. Par. 9

LDC Volunteer ................................................................................................................................... Par. 10

Congregation Volunteer ..................................................................................................................... Par. 11

Kingdom Hall Maintenance ............................................................................................................... Par. 12

Dear Brothers:

1. The Local Design/Construction Department broadcast on January 31, 2015, was indeed

a special occasion that provided a better understanding of the changes being made to accelerate

Kingdom Hall construction. We are pleased to provide this letter to outline highlights from

that meeting for your future reference.

2. Organizational Refinements: A new world headquarters department, Worldwide

Design/Construction (WDC), was formed to oversee the scheduling and expediting of worldwide

construction and renovation projects. Regional Design/Construction Departments (RDCs) serve

as an extension of the WDC in overseeing construction in countries in their region. A Local Design/

Construction Department (LDC) serving at the branch office level is responsible for coordinating

the design, construction, maintenance, and operation of Kingdom Halls and Assembly

Halls in the local branch territory.

3. A branch-wide plan is used to prioritize the needs for Kingdom Halls. LDC field representatives

gather information from bodies of elders, circuit overseers, and others about local

needs and circumstances. Field representatives generally meet with the Congregation Service

Committee. However, other elders may attend if a body of elders feels that would be beneficial.

The most critical needs are filled first. As congregations patiently wait for their needs to be cared

for, they show generosity toward those with more urgent needs.—Phil. 2:4.

4. Because of the size of the United States branch territory, it has been divided into eight

zones. A Local Design/Construction Office (LDCO) established in each zone cares for the work of

construction and maintenance in its zone and cares for those assigned to do the work. Specific details

will be provided later regarding the LDCO to which your congregation is assigned.

5. Kingdom Hall Construction and Renovations: Decisions related to what goes into

a Kingdom Hall, where a Kingdom Hall should be built, when it should be remodeled, and what

congregations should attend the Kingdom Hall are now made by the branch office. Standardization

will streamline the purchasing process and will lower costs. The new design incorporates

commercial features that will be more durable and cost-effective. Principles of this design will also

be used when possible on renovation projects.

6. Construction Groups: Under the guidance of the LDC, construction groups care for

the construction and renovation of theocratic facilities. (These construction groups should not be

confused with the construction groups being used to identify persons to fill the needs at the

Warwick construction project.) Construction groups are composed of up to eight special full-time

construction servants or full-time construction volunteers. Congregations are extended the privilege

of offering as much support as their circumstances allow.

7. Construction Volunteer: An exemplary baptized brother or sister who is skilled with

at least a few years of work experience and who is available full-time from one week to six

months may serve as a construction volunteer. Applicants must be at least 19 years of age. Preference

is given to elders, ministerial servants, and pioneers. Depending on circumstances and

availability, a construction volunteer may receive an assignment anywhere within the branch territory

or even in another country. A construction volunteer applies by completing the Application

for Construction Volunteer Program (A-27), which is available in the “Forms” section of jw.org.

8. Construction Servant: After serving as a construction volunteer for three months, a

brother or sister may apply to serve as a construction servant. This assignment is generally for

one year or until the completion of the project to which the servant is assigned. When invited, he

or she applies by completing the Application to Become a Construction Servant in the Worldwide

Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses (A-32). This application is only available

from the branch office.

9. Local Construction Servant: After first serving as a construction volunteer for three

months, a brother or sister may apply to serve as a local construction servant. He or she would be

able to care for the assignment while living in his or her own home. The assignment is generally

for one year or until the completion of the project to which the servant is assigned. Similar to a

construction servant, he or she applies by completing an Application to Become a Construction

Servant in the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses (A-32).

10. LDC Volunteer: An exemplary baptized brother or sister with needed skills or aptitude

who is available periodically to support construction or maintenance projects within a reasonable

travel distance may apply to be an LDC volunteer. An LDC volunteer must be an example

worthy of imitation in such areas as meeting attendance, zeal in the ministry, and respect

and support of the body of elders. An LDC volunteer applies by completing the Local Design/

Construction Volunteer Application (DC-50), which is available in the “Forms” section of

jw.org. This application replaces the Regional Building Committee Volunteer Application (S-82).

11. Congregation Volunteer: A local publisher who is at least 17 years of age and who

is not under judicial restrictions may be used as a congregation volunteer. He or she is invited to

work on his or her own Kingdom Hall. There is no application. Congregation volunteers receive

approval through the Congregation Service Committee of the body of elders.

12. Kingdom Hall Maintenance: There is a connection between our zeal for worship and

our zeal for caring for our places of worship. To assist in this work, a new Kingdom Hall maintenance

program is gradually being introduced throughout the United States branch territory under

the direction of the LDC. The goals of this program are to extend the life of our Kingdom Halls

and to conserve dedicated funds. Under this arrangement, Kingdom Hall maintenance processes

will be unified worldwide. LDC field trainers, brothers and sisters serving as full-time construction

servants, will arrange to meet with bodies of elders and to provide maintenance training to local

brothers and sisters. Until this arrangement is made available in your area, continue to support the

maintenance needs for your Kingdom Hall as directed by your Regional Building Committee.

13. How can everyone have a share in these adjustments? We can give financial contributions

to build Kingdom Halls. (2 Cor. 8:13-15) We can continue to support the greatest preaching

campaign in history. (Matt. 28:19, 20) And we can keep theocratic construction projects in our

daily prayers, asking Jehovah to bless these efforts.

14. Thank you in advance for your support of these arrangements and for your encouraging

others to “offer themselves willingly.”—Ps. 110:3.

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WT Opens Pyramid Time Capsule, and Finds It Empty!

by VM44 in

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heathen's thread "property tax and the home bible study" veered off onto this subject, so i am starting a new thread for it.

the granite pyramid monument placed next to charles russell's grave site was also a time capsule!

placed with it were photos of russell, his writings, books, and other items!..

suavojr

The reason why I am bumping is because I've been reading the fascinating PDF file Atlantis just posted and I was reading about Russell's funeral arrangements.

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WT Opens Pyramid Time Capsule, and Finds It Empty!

by VM44 in

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friends

heathen's thread "property tax and the home bible study" veered off onto this subject, so i am starting a new thread for it.

the granite pyramid monument placed next to charles russell's grave site was also a time capsule!

placed with it were photos of russell, his writings, books, and other items!..

suavojr

After 11 years still no one has any insight on this?

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The Largest BOE File Ever Compiled!

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watchtower body of elder letters:.. this pdf file is the largest boe file ever compiled.

it has been downloaded at least 30 times with no virus issues.

the file is from 1905 to 2015 updated, and includes all the elder manuals from 1961 to 2010 at the bottom of the bookmarks.

suavojr

Wow! Thanks for this gem. I just have a nice collection to read up on THANKS SO MUCH