really the whole thing is ludicrious but it is hilarious and sad at the same time to see grown people arguing about weather there will be cars, planes, eat meat, what about fish, etc in a place as imaginary as oz, yet to them it is reality.. the teaching of a paradise earth was so illogical it really was the first thing that started me on the path to waking up.
just the thought that someone could greet their beloved spouse who had died only to come to the realization that they could never be together again struck me as so cruel, i didnt want to live there even if it was all true.. i have heard jws say they think we might be able to fly, read minds since we will be able to use 100% and some seem to think life would be an endless vacation, with modern conveniences with no thought to all the processes and work that goes into something simple like a pencil.
i love the article jwfacts has on the flaws of any theory or teaching of paradise earth.. what are some things you have heard discussed/argued in car groups, gatherings etc when you were in?.
How can you clean 7 billion dead corpses? My father said to me: "Jehovah will use ANTIMATTER" and problem solved. But dad, how will we feel when our loved ones were killed in the big A? "Don't worry my son, you will be so happy that you will not feel any pain"
But dad, What tools or technology will we use in the new system? "Man has been able to reach the moon without God, you can be sure we will have the most advanced technology"
really the whole thing is ludicrious but it is hilarious and sad at the same time to see grown people arguing about weather there will be cars, planes, eat meat, what about fish, etc in a place as imaginary as oz, yet to them it is reality.. the teaching of a paradise earth was so illogical it really was the first thing that started me on the path to waking up.
just the thought that someone could greet their beloved spouse who had died only to come to the realization that they could never be together again struck me as so cruel, i didnt want to live there even if it was all true.. i have heard jws say they think we might be able to fly, read minds since we will be able to use 100% and some seem to think life would be an endless vacation, with modern conveniences with no thought to all the processes and work that goes into something simple like a pencil.
i love the article jwfacts has on the flaws of any theory or teaching of paradise earth.. what are some things you have heard discussed/argued in car groups, gatherings etc when you were in?.
We will all talk Hebrew, live and visit other planets, will not use any money, will have nice clothes (But don't know who will make them), we will have the best and most advance technologies such as flying cars, telepathy communication, everlasting energy and nothing will contaminate the world.
I am personally looking forward on having a better body than Rambo with zero steroids and zero workout, I will kick higher than Bruce Lee, I will swin faster than Michael Phelps, hit harder than Bonds, and sing better than Julio Iglesias.
We will learn everything in a blink of an eye and yet JW's don't beleive in miracles today....
for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.
because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.
in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.
I will keep it nice and short... It is extremely unbearable to listen to lies and pretend they are true. Let me paraphrase Ray, 'you can sit forever and not stand up for what you believe or stand up and not tolerate the deceit'
i should begin by screaming the word: no!.
keeping secret your identity while posting in a public forum is like removing your pubic hair with a blowtorch.
which is to say, theoretically possible but not at all feasible!.
Thank you Terry! Since I am an active JW, I also came to this realization a few days. I am getting closer and closer to the edge of my abyss.
The trick is to come out of such entrapment! That's what the WT hates the most, when people leave and do better without them. That is the best testimony we can all give them
okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
I am sending my letter
okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
I love the idea of the letter! we can get people still inside that have learned TTATT to send a letter... although someone still inside or not labeled as an apostate should refrain from using a real name but could at least mention what district or circuit they belong to.
As for a date we can pick their famous day coming soon:
On July 26, 1931, at a convention in Columbus, Ohio , Rutherford introduced the new name— Jehovah's witnesses —
We can all send a letter on July 26, 2013
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
It is time for reflection... AAWA activists please pay attention!
“The life of the enemy . Whoever lives for the sake of combating an enemy has an interest in the enemy's staying alive.”
? Friedrich Nietzsche “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
? Napoleon Bonaparte “Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.”
? Lisa Du “Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?”
? Abraham Lincoln We do not merely destroy our enemies; we change them.”
? George Orwell, 1984 If you had played your cards right AAWA had a small chance, but now it is back to the drawing board.
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
I GUESS AWAA IS NOT SPIRIT DIRECTED, DAMMIT!!
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
satanus you are correct
Apostates cannot organize and agree... just more fuel for WT leaders to use. I wonder if they will even tweak this years DC convention talks?
AGAIN, Thank you AWAA
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
I bet the boys in NYC are living it up and enjoying all these threads! Thank you AWAA
