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  November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.

  by Crazyguy in

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  thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.

  this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.

  there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.

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  How so? Do they specifically mention they should be shunned?
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

  by wifibandit in

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  update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

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  Where can I find information on those 54 halls built in the last 3 years? Thanks.
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  HLC and privacy rights

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  some time ago i used to work at a hospital.

  when my family members would receive treatment at this place, often times they would ask me if i could look up information for them regarding their health.

  i always had to tell them that privacy laws did not allow me to bypass the hospital's administration.

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  I agree on thinking they are above the law. On an occasion or two elders bypassed privacy issues just to catch someone and bring them to a JC. I'm not sure but what was done would probably violate some law at the most.
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  Santa is coming.. true Story

  by ab.ortega in

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  http://imgur.com/aCilSrk
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  Santa is coming.. true Story

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  Witnesses Repair 60-Year-Old Dam in Warwick

  by wifibandit in

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  in this propaganda piece they continue to obsess over this damn dam!.

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  http://imgur.com/a/icmez.

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  Watchtower structural workers raise the concrete wings of the primary spillway an additional four feet and repair the structural cracks.

  
  

  Surprised they weren't labeled as "volunteers" rather "workers.
  
  
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  Tour Booking facility Via JW.ORG

  by Da.Furious in

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  not sure is this was posted online.. visitors to the jw.org website can now book tour visits to any bethel (as long as country does not ban jws).. the link to the booking page is: .

  https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/bethel-tour-reservation-tool/.

  within this article there is the actual link tot he booking page: .

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  Lol. What if we make a bunch of fake reservations.. Nothing stopping us huh?
  

  Apostatour of the new HQ
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  "The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

  by smiddy in

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  that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

  " "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

  have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

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  I feel like this just gives jDubs more fuel. Saying "see I told you they are imperfect and can make mistakes, they are doing the best they can. At least they admit their mistakes"

  UGGHH, I hate fighting this logic. What would your followup be to the above response?
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  REAL Community service now allowed?

  by ab.ortega in

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  at watchtowers website there is an undated article under "helping the community" relating how in 2015, jw's from russia participated in the 'springtime beautification of the city'.

  it is not stated but more than likely this had to do with preparations for some assembly or something.

  a group of witness going out to clean the community just for goodwill - i don't see it happening.

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  Thanks
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  Comparing WT Library - 2011 vs. 2012

  by MeanMrMustard in

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  a couple of years ago, i participated in a thread on this site comparing the old nwt (1984) to the new nwt (2013).

  i was able to produce a nwt mash up pdf showing the side-by-side differences between the two versions of the nwt.

  herethis site claims it will hold the file for download for a long time.

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  The watchtower 1988: "Unmasking the serpent" paragraph 8

  2011 says: " Had it been otherwise, it would not have been a true test of Job's integrity." - Job 1:21; 2:9, 10.

  2012 says: "Thus, this became a very severe test of Job's integrity."- Job 1:21; 2:9, 10.

  Ther watchtower 2010: "Balsam of Gilead - The Balm that Heals"

  They removed "at the beginning" from: But it was not left unanswered. In the synagogue in Nazareth at the beginning of the year 30 C.E., Jesus read from the scroll of Isaiah, saying: