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  wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...

  by oompa in

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  i guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.

  my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.

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  Feeling sad too, but it will be better ... Your mother is in pain too...But you did the right thing.
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  How many of you knew about the"Jesus is not your Mediator" teaching when you were JWs??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  hi everyone.... just curious how many of you knew when you were active, about the societys official teaching regarding jesus the mediator.

  i was floored to find in my research, that they teach jesus is the mediator for the 144,000 only.

  and it is only by our association with them that we might have salvation.. i don't know about you guys but i was blown away when i learned they taught this.

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  I did now, but was not comfortable with the teaching... Now I am happy partaking the bread and wine of the last supper when attending church.
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  Dumbest Awake Title Ever?

  by metatron in

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  i hold in my hand the nov. awake magazine entitled "technology - blessing or curse?"..

  now, i understand the need for balance and moderation in using technology, as the magazine says - but could they come up with a more intelligent sounding title?

  it makes the question sound as if abandoning technology might be a solution, a considered choice, a real possibility.

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  Remember once: Is Sugar really sweet? or something like that.

  It was about slave trade . The story was interesting itself..

  I also remember that they got a letter to "From Our readers" making them aware that some of the illustrations had 20th century clothing...

  And they answered something like, they forgot to turn the clock back or something like that.

  When I was a JW, I especially liked the "critical" letters in that column
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

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  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  Primarily the voting issue and view on bloodtransfusion ere issues of concern. Also I will suppose the shunning/DFs issues.
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

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  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  it is a serious newspaper with a definite christian angle... Most of the news it carries are religious issues.

  The biggest tabloid in Sweden, Expressen, wrote an editorianl in favor of the governments decision to deny witnesses financial support.
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

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  2. beliefs

  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  No apologies: you get it right... Feelings/opinions put aside, as long as the system is that registered belief communities could be provided with government support based on tax revenues being paid back, all organizations should be trated the same as long as they are registered...

  Besty: in Norway, e.g. the Human Ethic Federation gets monetary support for their close to 70,000 members.. in line with religious belief communities.

  Link is provided of the whole article:

  http://www.dagen.se/dagen/article.aspx?id=189234
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

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  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  InquiryMan

  Well, although I am being shunned by my family because of the organizations policies and have lost all my former friends because of disagreeing, I refuse to see everything black and white.

  I do see that that the community benefits from the societys teaching illiterates to read, rebuild homes and helping in disaster although it is primarily their own, that frees labor to be used to help non-witnesses, some people (who have been drug addicts, criminals etc) do change their lives for the better, thus benefitting society at large.

  But: I do wish the organization of JWs would do more to help society as such, but that is not their agenda, believing the end of the world is imminent their activities are primarly directed at helping people to achieve spiritual goals (as seen by the WTS)...
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  InquiryMan

  It is strange that so many exJWs seem to continue the black and white thinking they once detested.
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  InquiryMan

  I guess it is more fair to state that whatever each tax payer pays goes back to the community that individual belongs to...

  Quite a lot of the Swedish watchtower surplus is being sent out of the country....
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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  InquiryMan

  Inasmuch as I disagree with the Watchtoer society, I am in favor of giving them the same rights as other belief communities as long as they are registered and accepted as such. That is a matter of principle.