Have sent you another pm brainmelt x love sky x
SkyGreen
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Over 4 months, still no response to this letter to the elders!
by Greybeard inhi everyone, its been over 4 months and i have not heard a response from the elders.
i called one of them a few weeks back.
he said they sent it to bethel and haven't heard back yet.
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SkyGreen
That's a great letter, how cruel of them to leave u hanging. But u have been so brave, and who know what good it might do. Consider sending copies to "brothers and sisters" u think might have an open mind? If you're going to be treated as an "apostate" why not make it worthwhile? Just a thought... But of course my situation is different to yours, I don't have the same wisdom as many here, including yourself.
im so sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved wife and family. There are no words...
Love and hugs,
Sky x
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SkyGreen
Hi brain melt, I've sent u a pm - we have a login common my sister! To open your messages, click on the little envelope icon at top right of screen, u will probably get an error msg, just click again and u should get it
Love sky x
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I am new here and need help...or just a listening ear
by Fallingaway inmy husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.
my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.
i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.
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SkyGreen
Dear dear sister, i dont even know you but I want to give you a hug
I too have 2 small children and a husband (albeit not an elder, but a former MS) still in as well as most of both our families. Take it slow and gentle with the husband, you might get somewhere. But respect free choice.
I told my husband my doubts and that I can no longer in good conscience share in the ministry. I continue to go to some meetings with him and the kids, and allow him to teach them "the truth", but I do not instigate anything. If he brings things up, I am honest.
f things carry on, as my children grow older and perhaps are considering baptism, I will give them more information from "the other side" I will also not oppose them in extracurricular activities (sports outside of school etc) and I honestly dont think their Dad will either.
As others have said, there is no need to make some sudden obvious stand, take your time love. Just love your family and follow your conscience.
Love, SkyGreen
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Another visit from the elders
by jonno12225 inso i have another visit from the elder this week.
this time they want to speak with my wife, still a believer and myself.
i think they want to know my position about my children attending the meetings and some other things.. while preparing myself for it i though of a challenge for the elders and my wife.
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SkyGreen
If what you assume about why they want to visit (ie your opinion on your kids attending meetings) then just stick to that
When its elders, you have to assume "uber dub"
Questioning all sorts of WT doctrines and policies will do you and your family NO GOOD
If you want to keep your family together and functioning peacefully, keep your thoughts on the down low with the elders!
Lots of Love.
SkyGreen
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It would be a lovely letter
by Defianttruth inletter from the governing body.. .
dear brothers due to our failed attempts of interrupting scripture and completely false, multiple prophecies, we as the governing body are going to implement a few new changes to god's earthly organization.. .
we are not god's earthly organization.
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SkyGreen
my goodness that brought a tear to my eye, i WISH that would happen, then myself and so many others with spouses, children and other family in while they're fading, wouldnt be going through what we are right now!
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just support please
by Roberta804 ini have had to make some very difficult decisions in recent days.
in one way i feel good about takeing care of myself and my mother who is on her dead bed in the room next to me.
mom has live with me since 2005 and started to make her journey to the other side on christmas day.
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SkyGreen
huge big hugs to you, what a tough time you are going through!
My only suggestion would be ask yourself: What would mum want? and what decision will you be able to live with?
Hope things work out peacefully for you, whatever you decide, you certainly have all the support in the world here
Lots of love
Sky xx
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SkyGreen is no longer one of Jehovahs Witnesses... Why?
by SkyGreen inwow it felt good to type that heading, if only it were officially true!.
i guess i dont want to dwell on "ttatt" too much, though i am now an inactive jw now, and will be forever, i dont want to be defined by that.
but i will certainly keep an eye on this forum, contribute where i feel i can, and i must say thankyou to those who moderate it and keep it running.
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SkyGreen
Happy Dad, TTATT means "the truth about the truth", it took me a while to decipher that one too! Whats BS??!! just kidding, why dont you just type bullshit?
Thanks to everyone for the helpful feedback. For those that asked, my parents are "ubder dubs", it is their WHOLE LIFE. I have no interest in trying to "wake them up", i just dont think it would help. A quick update:
My mum knows Im inactive in the ministry and irregular. She really wants me to explain why. I was honest with her in saying that research has led me to believe that according to the bible the witnesses cant have "the truth", i dont just have doubts anymore about the org. I also said that since coming to that conclusion I now have serious doubts about the bible. She asked me so what led to those conclusions and how do you feel about Jehovah? I have answered that I feel it wouldnt be productive to explain all my reasons, that these are personal and private, and that I have no desire to tear down the faith of another person. I also said that I find it VERY hard to believe in God anymore, but that I am OK with that, that I no longer feel like I have to have those answers. I said that taking that burden off myself is helping me to relax and actually focus on my family life more. Hopefully she can accept that. I will continue to encourage her to care for her health (mental and physical), enjoy her hobbies and her grandchildren. We just wont talk about spiritual matters unless she asks me direct questions. I thought about sending her the "letter" I put in my original post, but I just dont think its the right time. It would just lead to more questions and more stress. I need to be relaxed so I can enjoy time with my husband and kids - whilst having this email discussion with my mother i havent been very available as a wife or mother, and it affects my relationship with them badly.
I said on my other thread that Im going to continue with the Sunday meetings to try and keep my family unified. I have hopes that my husband will fade with me eventually, but it has to come from him. I need to be supportive of him. When he is relaxed and happy, I am relaxed and happy and vice versa. And if we are happy together, we are the best parents we can be. That is so important to me, the most important thing of all really.
Am in a bit of limbo at the moment, its tough isnt it!? But I know things will get easier, its just been a matter of finding some sort of balance as a family.
I have more to say, but I have to watch how much I share here.
Bye for now
Love Sky
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Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?
by Cold Steel infor those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?
i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.
did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.
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SkyGreen
disturbing photos dazed...! how awful what some humans can do to the other humans
regarding the OP....
An elder in our old congregation answered up in the WT once... I believe there was the example of Phinehas (you know the one who speared the fornicators through the middle..."what and aaaagonizing deaath", great drama that). Anyhoo, brother "oldandtiredandfaithfulandsickofallyoumerepublisherssinningallthetime" said something to the effect of "...elders today dont have that kind of authority, although at times we wish we could carry around a big stick..." There were a few incredulous looks in the hall, including from some of the other elders. Brother "loveandforgivenessbutnobackbonetostandupforus", brother "seriouslyanxiousallthetime", brother "bythebookknobhead".... i dont think any of them knew where to look!
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SkyGreen is no longer one of Jehovahs Witnesses... Why?
by SkyGreen inwow it felt good to type that heading, if only it were officially true!.
i guess i dont want to dwell on "ttatt" too much, though i am now an inactive jw now, and will be forever, i dont want to be defined by that.
but i will certainly keep an eye on this forum, contribute where i feel i can, and i must say thankyou to those who moderate it and keep it running.
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SkyGreen
thankyou so much everyone, it makes me happy to know that posting this has been helpful to at least one other person if not more.
I was watching a couple of youtube videos posted here, one about mexico/malawi (by the snarky apologist), and the other from Cedars/jw survey about the child abuse letter. Both very powerful. Will be bookmarking and keeping lots of these "gems" in a file for future reference and possibly to help others.
Love to everyone
Sky xxx