Posts by tracysdad

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The sound basis for 607 for the fall of Jerusalem

by cecil in

in the main-forum thread "jerusalem destroyed in 607 bce?".

* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14392&site=3.

purehearts question.

tracysdad

gibsite, I'm interested in the info you have. If you would, my email is [email protected].

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Where is the proof???

by tracysdad in

where is the scriptural proof that jesus christ is michael the archangel?

is there one verse that states as such?

can michael be worshipped as christ was?

Where is the proof???

by tracysdad in

where is the scriptural proof that jesus christ is michael the archangel?

is there one verse that states as such?

can michael be worshipped as christ was?

<<<Another Gospel has the Christ figure on MT zion (in this reference called Jesus) arguing with Peter over the Body of Moses therefore according to Jude Michael is that figure on MT zion while Peter is Satan.>>>

Where is this at???

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Where is the proof???

by tracysdad in

where is the scriptural proof that jesus christ is michael the archangel?

is there one verse that states as such?

can michael be worshipped as christ was?

tracysdad

Here's something that helped me out with this...The JW Bible says that Jesus created "all other things." This would include Lucifer. So, Jesus created Lucifer, the angel. Jude 9 says that Michael did not dare to rebuke Satan, but left that to the Lord. Why? You mean that Jesus/Michael, as the creator, could not rebuke his creation? Please...

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Where is the proof???

by tracysdad in

where is the scriptural proof that jesus christ is michael the archangel?

is there one verse that states as such?

can michael be worshipped as christ was?

tracysdad

Where is the scriptural proof that Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel? Is there one verse that states as such? NO. Can Michael be worshipped as Christ was? NO. Worship of angels is forbidden. Did the apostles or the earliest church fathers believe jesus was Michael? NO. So where is the proof???

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The "Kingdom of God", Perhaps An Ear...

by MDS in

the "kingdom of god," perhaps an earthly kingdom?.

daniel 7:21, 22 says this:.

"i kept on beholding when that very horn made war upon the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them, and judgment itself was given in favor of the holy ones of supreme one, and the definite time arrived that the holy ones took possession of the kingdom itself.".

tracysdad

Wow...good job. I talked with a JW on Saturday for an hour & this came up. I mentioned that it's been 87 years since Christ was enthroned in the Heavens, & that everyone's still here. She said that it did bother her, but she said that Jehovah will bring about the end in his own time.

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Is Michael the Angel of the Lord?

by tracysdad in

joshua 5:13-15. exactly who is this "commander of the lord's army?

" rev.

12:7 michael & his angels throw satan out of heaven.

tracysdad

It was said "the name YHVH, found over 6,800 times in the Old Testament, was applied to God the Father (Deu. 18:15; Psa. 110:1), the Messiah (Exo.
13:21; 19:20; Num 21:6), and even to angels (Gen. 19:18, original Hebrew text)."

Aaron, you said "The scriptures given with reference to the "Messiah" was actually Michael, not the Messiah."
Numbers 21:6 IS referencing Jesus Christ, as 1 Corinthians 10:9 states.
I'll need some time to study your rebuttal. Thanks for responding.

ps. Can you explain Daniel 12:1? Is this talking about the second coming of Christ?

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Is Michael the Angel of the Lord?

by tracysdad in

joshua 5:13-15. exactly who is this "commander of the lord's army?

" rev.

12:7 michael & his angels throw satan out of heaven.

tracysdad

Easy now...

I wish I could comment on this but I'm too broke to buy a clue. :)

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Is Michael the Angel of the Lord?

by tracysdad in

joshua 5:13-15. exactly who is this "commander of the lord's army?

" rev.

12:7 michael & his angels throw satan out of heaven.

tracysdad

kes152, I emailed that paper to you. It's condensed & not in the format of the site itself, so I hope it's not tough reading.
shalom to you~

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Is Michael the Angel of the Lord?

by tracysdad in

joshua 5:13-15. exactly who is this "commander of the lord's army?

" rev.

12:7 michael & his angels throw satan out of heaven.

tracysdad

kes152, would you please check out the web address www.aristotle.net/~bhuie/christot.htm. This guy seems to connect The Angel of the LORD(Jesus Christ) with Michael the Archangel. I looked up almost all of his references & He seems to make a legitimate argument. It's a pretty lengthy paper, but I'd appreciate it. Thanks.