As moreconfusedthanever said, how come God doesn't answer the prayers of all the children being molested? Does he just let years go by so he can test out their endurance and faith in him? Another thing I find ironic is expressing our thanks to God for the meal we have in front of us or the roof over our head. What about the homeless people that pray for a better life? What about all the millions of people starving across the globe that pray for help? Does God just not care about them? Do they have a bunch of secret sins they're hiding? I have concluded some are just more fortunate than others, it has nothing to do with God blessing you.
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A little rant about prayer
by BourneIdentity inis god responsible for every good thing that happens in your life?
i ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that.
he said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that jehovah cares for us and was involved.. however, people complain that jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad.
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3--2019-New Files Have Arrived!
by Atlantis in2019 brd newsletter.
https://docdro.id/zcdi01y.
2019 brd visitor center newsletter.
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I see in point 7 of the last link they are shamelessly begging for more money.
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A little rant about prayer
by BourneIdentity inis god responsible for every good thing that happens in your life?
i ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that.
he said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that jehovah cares for us and was involved.. however, people complain that jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad.
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Is God responsible for every good thing that happens in your life? I ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that. He said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that Jehovah cares for us and was involved.
However, people complain that Jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad. With that logic, since I don’t pray about stuff and good things happen, is he helping me even though I’m not asking for help?
There are other JWs that move where the need is greater and say it was so obvious that Jehovah directed them there. Yet, any of them could be killed in a car accident, get cancer or swept away in a tsunami. These things happen. Why would Jehovah direct them to be in a position to preach to people in far away lands, only to offer no protection that results in their death?
People say you need to work along with your prayers. If you want a Bible study, you have to work in line with it and go looking. If you want a job that supports you to pioneer, you have to search and work along with your prayers. What it all boils down to is you have to make it happen, Jehovah can’t do anything without you taking action.
I think it’s easy to conclude that life is full of good things as well as shit happens. There is no chance a God could even be concerned about what happens in our everyday lives. For some JWs to credit Jehovah with all good things that happen and Satan with all bad things is utterly ridiculous.
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Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations
by BourneIdentity inhttp://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations.
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I had copied and pasted what was contained at the link, so they made the mistake :)
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Persecuted for God's Name or Social Retards?
by Sea Breeze ini was on my cell phone this morning while pumping gas.
i was having an intense conversation trying to resolve a potential business logistics problem that could affect a lot of people.
time was of the essence.
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You were simply viewed as an easy placement for her monthly time card. She wouldn’t have to talk to you since you were on the phone and she assumed you’d just take it to get rid of her.
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Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations
by BourneIdentity inhttp://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations.
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Did you ever needlessly quit ajob as a witness ?
by Steel inmy wife has a friend ( male ) with a six month old baby who just decided to be unemployed and had a fairly good paying job.
without giving up too much information it seems quite weird.
the reason i ask is because i have been in meetings and assemblies and some of the advice they like to give doesn't seem very intelligence about being a productive member of society.
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I have never needlessly quit, but I know the JW leadership suggests rank and file members quit if the job interferes with meetings, service, assemblies or conventions. They aren’t supposed to worry about how to put food on the table, keep the roof over their head or shirts on their backs, but just have faith and confidence that Jehovah will provide for them.
I don’t see how any rank and file member can even listen to those idiots in Warwick. Think about the life they live for a minute, they are out of touch with reality. They never have to worry about paying a mortgage or rent, paying utilities, going out and buying groceries, spending time preparing meals, doing laundry, cleaning the house, maintaining vehicles, absolutely none of that. They are riding the gravy train and they have the nerve to tell the members to just quit and everything will be fine, pathetic!
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One of the points of conventions: obedience training
by john.prestor ini think a lot these days about people who train you to be obedient without telling you that's what they're doing.
the thought occurred to me that that could be part of the idea of regional conventions.
it's not like they present much of anything new to the audience, it's the same old talks year after year, the same old information, yeah, repackaged a little, different themes, different illustrations, but the same information, obey the faithful slave, armageddon is imminent, go door-to-door, the usual.
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It’s crazy to think everyone schedules time off work to attend these assemblies and conventions, in addition to spending hundreds on hotels, gas and food. What makes it so odd is it’s the same information you hear from your local Kingdom Hall over and over again. It’s a huge cash generating event for the Organization, that’s all there is to it. The only bright moment for people is the concluding “Amen” each day so they can enjoy a nice dinner and swim at the hotel.
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I Ended my Bible Study
by Maria Nieves ini ended my bible study today.
several months ago, i began to feel that the truth was not the truth.
as the months progressed, my feelings intensified.
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I’m sure your Bible study conductor cares about you and is disappointed you quit, but her ultimate disappointment is now she can’t count those 13 hours per month. She will have to accumulate the same time by doing cold calls on other people or driving all around to consume time. That is her main disappointment, I can assure you of that.
As you said, the study should have stopped quite awhile back. Some see that and decide to do it to put forth effort on other promising studies. I’m sure in her case, she didn’t have any others, so she viewed you as “easy time”.
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The Organizations obsession with image.
by BourneIdentity inas we all know, the highest priority or concern in the religion isn’t about adhering to god’s word or obeying jehovah and jesus, but rather the image of the organization and all its members.
just yesterday there was a talk where the brother stated how important it is to keep our homes clean, yards free of junk piling up and cars clean, because it could possibly detract from the message.
besides those things he mentioned, they want all males to never grow a beard or goatee.
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Good point truth_b_known.
Obesity is just as much harmful to your health as smoking, drinking and drugs are. It’s clear that people that are obese put food above their health, there is no other way around it. That is the definition of gluttony.