Posts by BourneIdentity

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A conversation that could have occurred between Jesus and a crowd he taught

by BourneIdentity in

jesus: "so that is why you all get sick and die, because adam and eve grabbed an apple from the tree that god told them not to.".

a man from the crowd: "but why are we punished for something we didn't do, we don't even know that man and woman, that was thousands of years ago!".

jesus: "my father exercises perfect justice, believe me when i tell you when i say you got what was coming to you.

BourneIdentity

Jesus: "So that is why you all get sick and die, because Adam and Eve grabbed an apple from the tree that God told them not to."

A man from the crowd: "But why are we punished for something we didn't do, we don't even know that man and woman, that was thousands of years ago!"

Jesus: "My Father exercises perfect justice, believe me when I tell you when I say you got what was coming to you. Let me also tell you an illustration of a dented bread pan.... (the illustration continues till completion).

A woman from the crowd: "I bake bread and I would have fixed that dent. Why didn't your Father fix the dent?"

Jesus: (Gazes at the woman with disgust and looks away from her) "Let it also be known that Adam and Eve chose the broad and spacious path leading to destruction, but you all need to go on the narrow path, and very few are finding it."

A man from the crowd: "But Jesus, Adam and Eve were perfect and they still couldn't walk on the narrow path. We are imperfect, we have aches and pains, we die of all sorts of diseases, we have impure thoughts and sinful tendencies. How are we supposed to do what they couldn't do with all that extra baggage we carry?"

Jesus: "That’s not my problem, I have bigger things to worry about. My Father wants me dead to accomplish one of his purposes.”

The crowd groans and one man shouts "Jesus Christ, we're fucked!" And that was the start of Jesus Christ's name being used in vain.

The End.

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Non Believers, how do you respond ?

by Phizzy in

i recently had this in a message from a jw, a lovely person, but mind controlled, he wrote " a life without hope is no life for me".. how should i respond to that ?

i am an atheist, but want to respond in as kindly a way as possible.. i was thinking along the lies of saying i got no comfort from what i knew to be false hope, but need to say it in a kindly way.. ideas please ?.

BourneIdentity

Let’s go with an illustration, I always excelled at those on my number 4 talks.

One man was raised in a poor household. When he graduated school, he was determined to change his lot in life. He eventually earned a salary of $250,000 per year and enjoyed a nice house, cars, vacations and still had money to spare for retirement savings.

Another man was poor, but had a hope of winning the lottery one day. He went on eeking his way through life struggling paycheck to paycheck. This was no way to live and he hated it, but he had the surest hope he would win the lottery one day and all his money stresses would be washed away. The man eventually died with $5 in his jeans pocket.

Where did hope get that man? Absolutely nowhere. The hope took all his drive and determination away. It robbed him of getting what he could have had his entire life.

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An illustration of obeying the Governing Body when it makes no sense from a human perspective.

by BourneIdentity in

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Meetings

by pontoon in

so remember how assembling together is a command and no man or government can stop us, even if it means going 'underground', even if means being arrested, jailed, beat....can't stop us from assembling together----until covid.

now it's "false regligion" fighting for their constitutional right to meet together while the jws seem to be perefectly happy zooming their lives away..

BourneIdentity

The 2 biggest reasons I see them not holding meetings is

The majority of JWs are in the high risk group of 60+. That is a lot of money to lose in regular donations. But it’s also an opportunity to really cash in if they have willed their home and savings to the Borg. I believe they love money, but not quite enough to desire to see their member base die off.
PR. They have gotten so much negative PR in the last several years from child sex abuse and Leah Remini to name a few. The last thing they want is to be in the news like other churches who hold meetings and then the pastor and parishioners die. If the CDC had a poster child of a church example to follow for the pandemic, it would most likely be JWs. Possibly other religions are doing just as well, but from what I see, JWs are doing their best to follow everything to the T.

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A Salute to Petra/Atlantis

by Slidin Fast in

jw
friends

whilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.

i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.

no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.

BourneIdentity

We’ve got your back Atlantis and Petra. Marc O Dildo can suck my fuckin dick!

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The covid vaccine and microchip fears

by BourneIdentity in

why is there a group so fearful of being tracked?

if you carry around a cell phone, your every movement is being tracked, even if you disable it.

court proceedings have shown google and apple can hand all the data over of all your movement.

BourneIdentity

Lmao, that is such a good point Simon, I hadn’t thought of that one! Bill Gates can’t get the simple shit right after decades, but he’s perfected nanotechnology already.

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The covid vaccine and microchip fears

by BourneIdentity in

why is there a group so fearful of being tracked?

if you carry around a cell phone, your every movement is being tracked, even if you disable it.

court proceedings have shown google and apple can hand all the data over of all your movement.

BourneIdentity

Why is there a group so fearful of being tracked? If you carry around a cell phone, your every movement is being tracked, even if you disable it. Court proceedings have shown google and apple can hand all the data over of all your movement.

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Is this 2034 date actually something the cult put out?

by mickbobcat in

so i have heard this 120 preaching time and 2034 end date.

are they pushing another set time of is this something someone else came up with?.

BourneIdentity

They will NEVER put a date in any publication, they know it will come back to bite them. I could see them telling circuit overseers to pass it onto elders and get everyone excited though. I don’t know how anyone could put stock in them selecting a date. 1879, 1914, 1925, 1975, they’ve fucked up so much and have never got one thing right.

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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

by JWTom in

this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

BourneIdentity

The only way I see the Borg ending is if every adherent obeys the Governing Body in 2 things:

Those who are single listen to the strong encouragement from the slave to stay single and do all you can in service to Jehovah.
Those who are married and have no children, do not bring children into this wicked system which is soon to lick the dust and do all you can serving Jehovah without kids holding you back.

If everyone obeys, even if it doesn’t make sense from a human standpoint, the Borg will end. All their growth is JW kids being pressured and forced to get baptized. If they listen and obey the GB on points 1 and 2, we will all be blessed with their demise. It could be stated that the only reason the Borg is in existence today is due to PIMOs that don’t listen to their bullshit and get married and have kids.

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Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

by Lost in the fog in

guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

BourneIdentity

When the GB speak of people being mentally sick who claim to be anointed, I’m sure this is the type they are speaking of.

And then they label all the apostates as mentally diseased. It’s amazing they are so qualified to diagnose all of our mental health without even knowing us, they are so much like God! 🤮