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  Leaked WT Elder Training Video

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/2nacvosx8n0.

  good to see the caring brothers help establish depth of guilt..

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  BourneIdentity

  I can understand being in a judicial committee if someone ratted you out, but as has been said already by others, you are a complete fool to open up to the elders about ANYTHING! No matter how close you are to them and if you consider them like a father figure or best friend, their number one priority is keeping the congregation clean and answering to the circuit overseer. They don’t care how much they fuck up your life, just as long as they can feel a sense of pride by upholding the cleanliness in the Organization.

  No one should ever approach men and ask for forgiveness or try to prove your repentance to them. That’s what prayer is for if you believe in God. Why even feel guilty about sinning, we have all been born sinners, it’s what we fucking do!
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  BourneIdentity

  Racism will never end. The biggest improvement the police force could make is requiring all body cameras to be on the entire time. If police can shut them off at their discretion, they are worthless. It needs to be like an airplane black box, it’s always recording.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  BourneIdentity

  I would assume the GB or branches are analyzing this the same way as businesses are, weighing the risk versus reward of reopening.

  Some businesses have the majority of their employees working from home and have been surprised how amazing things have gone from a productivity and revenue generating standpoint. With those types, to have everyone return into office buildings, there is high risk and very low reward.

  With JWs and being at meetings, you will have several older ones at high risk and for what reward? The same spiritual food can be taken in from home on Zoom. And no doubt if they reopen, they will have to encourage all who don’t feel safe going out, to stay home and join by calling in or if Zoom is still an option. You will have many do that and the ones attending in person will probably be discouraged seeing the KH so empty.

  In my view, the reward has to far outweigh the risk to have things go back to normal. I don’t feel that will happen until everyone is vaccinated or we test everyone and they have antibodies. The only other way the reward would be higher than the risk is if the internet went out. Boy, wouldn’t that be incredible, truly an end of the world scenario!

  i know this topic is about the door to door work, so I went a little off topic about the KHs. But I’m assuming they are going through this thought process for both things.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  BourneIdentity

  Yes SBF, this does appear to be another case of the brothers and sisters running ahead of Jehovah’s celestial chariot. How many times do they have to be reminded not to do that.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  BourneIdentity

  Do you think the GB are prayerfully considering if the worldwide lockdowns and churches closing temporarily due to covid could be a fulfillment of the government devouring religion? It sounds ludicrous, but as with all things in the Bible, it’s easy to use a shoe horn and make anything fit your narrative.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  BourneIdentity

  I’ve always thought it would be impossible to get JWs to preach the hailstone message. I mean, how do you get people to go door to door and say “your going to die soon”?! But let’s be honest, if the world governments shutdown all churches, I could see them totally onboard with it. I think any of us would be in sheer shock if that event happened. It’s never going to happen. The only way the GT starts for JWs is if they receive new light and say something else happens, that they were wrong on false religion ending. At that point, it gets harder to preach the hailstone message, lots of doubt would creep into their minds.
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  Witnessing Work to Stop?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my 87 year old dad called me for the first time in 16 years the other day .... just to chat.

  i was floored to say the least since he didn't even bother to call me when my mom died several years ago.

  he called again today to inquire how i felt about jehovah's witnesses.

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  BourneIdentity

  We’ve been told it’s on hold till the branch gives further instruction, which they haven’t yet. I think some JWs are just making assumptions.
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  Economic Recovery after COVID-19

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it feels like we've really turned a corner, this morning especially.. the covid lockdowns are ending and medical systems were not overwhelmed plus there are existing treatments that have been proven to be effective (like hydroxychloroquine) and new vaccines and medicines in the pipeline.

  a week or so ago the dems were dead against opening things up but since they are encouraging protests (which often turn violent) they can't continue that stance - thus proving trumps claim that it will soon be gone.

  the majority of the deaths were politician-assisted (which i hope people are prosecuted for) so it's not the big risk we were led to believe and (over) reacted to.. the bls reported this morning that the us economy just added a huge number of jobs (most on record) and will undoubtedly benefit even more from a drive to source local production and supply chains going forwards.

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  BourneIdentity

  I believe there will be a big collapse in commercial real estate. Many employers have come to the realization they no longer need many office buildings. They can cut some people that may not be necessary and allow others to work from home. My employer is getting rid of many office buildings. They realized how productive people are from home and want to enjoy some massive savings.
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  BourneIdentity

  I think people should start recording cop encounters and show how they go very well when you are compliant and not an arrogant asshole. Oh wait, that wouldn’t be interesting for the media to share.
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  JW imprisonment

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is on the jw news site.

  news alert | crimean supreme court sentenced brother artem gerasimov to six years in prison.

  on june 4, 2020, the crimean supreme court sentenced brother artem gerasimov to six years in prison for his peaceful christian worship.

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  BourneIdentity

  I’m very sure many elders get off knowing the dirt on everyone else.

  Here is another thing that has to play out in their homes. Their wives need to know the latest gossip. If the elder tells her, the confidentiality is out the window. If he doesn’t tell her, you know the marriage is strained.

  I feel bad for all the ones that have to go to prison exercising their neutrality. Upon release, you are a convicted felon and struggle to find employment I’m sure.