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  1919 2013 2020 and the Slave

  by Jerryh in

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  i was never a jw but i lurk in this forum occasionally, trying to rescue some family.

  i will spare you those details.. jw.org and jwfacts are there with youtubes out the wazoo but i would appreciate your thought on this.. i know there are contradictions plenty but this is foundational, blatant and current.

  i know they typically just blow off.

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  This is for Jerryh, do you understand this?
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  In my country the preaching work is over

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws in my country can't preach to anyone these days and they're going crazy.

  i live in romania and initially during the covid-19 lockdown they were very enthusiastic about preaching.

  they've since held daily "field service meetings" on zoom.

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  Well they have stopped knocking for six months, is the end here?
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  Today's WT Study: "Return to Jehovah" - Lots of Elephants in the Room

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's article prods active jws to participate in the effort to reactivate us backsliders.. unfortunately, it fails to prepare the participants to adequately address the real reasons so many have left and want nothing frtherethan to be left alone: the un and child abuse scandals, prophetic failures; dumbed-down, increasingly specious and simplistic verbiage in literature and talks, the cult of personality and unwarranted veneration of those 8 singularly unremarkable members of the gb, etc., etc..

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  Conversation between a Jw and an ex-jw about this article.........

  JW :I want you to come back to Jehovah

  Ex-Jw: I am not aware that I have left Jehovah

  Letter of disassociation from WTBTS does not mean letter of disassociation from Jehovah.

  Infact letter of disassociation confirm you rubbed their own words as found in the Bible teach book page 183 "remember too that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an ORGANIZATION in their very face.

  Those out already your LEAVING should tell you, you are not dedicated to a GROUP of people, dedicated to the ONE and ONLY ORGANIZATION God is using on earth( despite that same organization working directly and indirectly for Satan's organization).

  How does the ONLY Jehovah's organization on earth work directly or indirectly for Satan's organization? Don't forget, there are only two biggest organization on EARTH.

  1. God's Organization(WTBTS)

  2. Satan's Organization (all other organization you can think off on earth)

  But for God's earthly organization to function in any lands on earth owned and controlled by Satan's organization, God's organization must obtain LICENCE and article of Association prepared and stamped by MINISTERS and AGENTS of Satan's organization.

  So tell me how can this ORGANIZATION avoid working DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY for Satan's organization?

  Don't forget in a hurry, the USDA one of the AGENT of Satan's organization is in partnership with Jehovah’s organization has provided practical physical assistance with a Food Distribution Program.

  What difference is there between WTBTS and other organization?

  Jehovah's organization work directly or indirectly for Satan's organization

  While

  Satan's organization work directly or indirectly for God's organization
  

  
  
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  REVISITING Awake October 1968 and the "THIS GENERATION" in association with OVERLAPPING GENERATION and THESE GENERATIONS

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the former image was obtained from a topic in the humor and joke section of this platform and it seems to carry a underground information that is equally powerful.. since a food company had been producing a particular product for four generations since 1914, how come the wtbts publishing company are still producing for a one generation since 1914?.

  awake october 1968 stated............ even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of "this generation" nearly 70 years old today(year 1968).

  so the great majority of the generation to which jesus was referring has already passed away in death.

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  @menrov tell me more😂😂😂😂
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  REVISITING Awake October 1968 and the "THIS GENERATION" in association with OVERLAPPING GENERATION and THESE GENERATIONS

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the former image was obtained from a topic in the humor and joke section of this platform and it seems to carry a underground information that is equally powerful.. since a food company had been producing a particular product for four generations since 1914, how come the wtbts publishing company are still producing for a one generation since 1914?.

  awake october 1968 stated............ even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of "this generation" nearly 70 years old today(year 1968).

  so the great majority of the generation to which jesus was referring has already passed away in death.

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  The former image was obtained from a topic in the humor and joke section of this platform and it seems to carry a underground information that is equally powerful.

  Since a food company had been producing a particular product for FOUR GENERATIONS since 1914, how come the WTBTS publishing company are still producing for a ONE GENERATION since 1914?

  Awake October 1968 stated............ Even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of "this generation" nearly 70 years old today(year 1968). So the great majority of the generation to which Jesus was referring has already passed away in death. The remaining ones are approaching old age. And remember, Jesus said that the end of this wicked world would come before that generation passed away in death. This, of itself, tells us that the years left before the foretold end comes cannot be many.

  Now see this CLAUSE in the same magazine........Jesus was obviously speaking about those who were old enough to witness with understanding what took place when the "last days" began.

  Using the David Splane as an example, Born in 1944, baptized +/- late 1950 to early 1960. The one who conveyed the latest light on the "THIS GENERATION" doctrine. Applying the above CLAUSE which states..........

  (Jesus was obviously speaking about those who were old enough to witness with understanding what took place when the "last days" began).

  What emerge from the above

  1. David Splane was not 15 Years old and even not born to be included among those this CLAUSE is meant for. He was not alive to understand or witness anything

  2. As at the time of when this article (Awake October 1968) was written, David Splane was 24 years old he did not witnessed anything WORLD WAR 1 and was given birth to at the dying embers of WORLD WAR 2. So the CLAUSE above cannot be applied to HIM simply because he did not understand or witnessed anything.

  The watchtower article coming up after this week study article carries questions like this.....can you explain these prophecies? Contained in the heading of a box. One will be forced to ask David Splane, Did he understand the prophecies in his own time before he was used to convey the OVERLAPPING GENERATION doctrine?

  So if David Splane was not 15 years old was not as old as 70 years and didn't understand or witnessed anything during the start of last day(1914) then it safe to say the teaching is indeed an OVERLAPPING GENERATION, JWS no longer teach "THIS GENERATION " but "THESE GENERATIONS"

  
  
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  BREAKING NEWS: The Gospel according to Cheezus (Overlapping Slices of Cheeze)

  by jp1692 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  new light: overlapping slices of cheeze!.

  now as jesus was departing from henning's wisconsin cheese cheese store and museum, his disciples approached to show him their shiny new delivery van.

  in response he said to them: “do you not see all these things?

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  The only information needed to be added here is what year was this adverts printed on that van😀😀😀😀😀😀 to warrant 4 GENERATIONS PAST.

  An image that sends enough information to those who can catch the DRIFT.
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  Today's WT Study: "Return to Jehovah" - Lots of Elephants in the Room

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's article prods active jws to participate in the effort to reactivate us backsliders.. unfortunately, it fails to prepare the participants to adequately address the real reasons so many have left and want nothing frtherethan to be left alone: the un and child abuse scandals, prophetic failures; dumbed-down, increasingly specious and simplistic verbiage in literature and talks, the cult of personality and unwarranted veneration of those 8 singularly unremarkable members of the gb, etc., etc..

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  Should they come ask......Is Jehovah = ORGANIZATION? Does returning to an ORGANIZATION = returning to God?

  Follow by asking HOW do they measure INACTIVITY as a Christian using the BIBLE?
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

  the organization answers: .

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  @ alanv.........As with anything JW related, you cant look deep into the subject

  Fastest way to see the veil behind the curtain called JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION is to go beyond the surface
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

  the organization answers: .

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  @ Phizzy....Again, the Org wants it both ways, you are not a JW when they say so, and yet you are a few minutes later if they say so !

  That's exactly how it is
  
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

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  From the FAQ as captured on the website with this question (How many Jehovah's Witnesses are there worldwide?) led to this question of MINE who do the ORGANIZATION sees as a Jehovah's witness? The ORGANIZATION answers:

  1. We count as Jehovah’s Witnesses only those who are actively preaching the good news of God’s Kingdom each month(baptized publisher or unbaptized publisher)
  

  2. Do you count THOSE ASSOCIATED with your ORGANIZATION who do not preach?
  

  Although we do not include such ones in the number of Witnesses, we welcome them in our congregations.
  

  3. By contrast, we count as Jehovah’s Witnesses only those who preach to others and who report that activity, not those who merely identify themselves as Witnesses.

  What EMERGES from the three points above?

  Someone that is not reporting but a baptized member and not dead. Is that person a Jehovah's witness or NOT?

  Since the ORGANIZATION say they count only does actively preaching as Jehovah's WITNESSES, then someone that fades away is not a Jehovah's Witness despite being a BAPTIZED PUBLISHER and his baptism identify him as ONE.

  This lead into the second baptismal question

  Second baptismal question.

  Do you understand that your BAPTISM identifies you as one of JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES in ASSOCIATION WITH Jehovah’s organization?
  

  Look at the second question in that FAQ article again below....

  Do you COUNT those ASSOCIATED with your organization who do not preach?

  The answer according to the organization is......Although We DO NOT INCLUDE SUCH ONES in the NUMBER of WITNESSES,

  Do you see the usage of the word ASSOCIATED? An invitee who attends the MEMORIAL GATHERING is not a Jehovah's Witness same as a baptized publisher who do not report his activity too is not a Jehovah's Witness

  but from the second baptismal question, the following can be said....
  

  as a result of baptism many come into ASSOCIATION with the ORGANIZATION and are SEEN as now as a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS by all.

  So, what is this all about?

  1. It means despite baptism and recognizing your baptism IDENTIFIES you as a JW. You will not be counted as a JW when you fail to report and should you do so consistently the status remains the same.

  2. From the first point on that FAQ aricle, they count unbaptized publishers who actively preach as JEHOVAH'S WITNESS without baptism. In essence the second baptismal question and baptism does not count or made less important in such case.

  Who then really is a Jehovah's witness looking at the way they play with words relating to...... Who they see and count as Jehovah's witness and who they don't see and count as Jehovah's WITNESSES

  So when RETURNING to JEHOVAH as this week watchtower study article is based. Those willing to do so should be ready to RESUME their WORK as SALES MARKETER. It seems that's the ONLY BASIS for RETURNING since an unbaptized publisher is equally a Jehovah's Witness like you without baptism doing well in the SALES MARKETING business.