Longlivetherenegades

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  Is Watchtower letting Ukrainian draftees flap in the wind without legal assistance?

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  is this like the situation in mexico vs malawi ray franz wrote about in his book "crisis of conscience:?

  why leave any mention of professed neutrality out of their government filings?

  may 18, 2025, 10:29 a.m.. court in odesa region rules that jehovah's witnesses' charter does not prohibit them from fighting.

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  This is really interesting
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  By their own standards, they are no longer ...

  by wantingtruth in

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  by their own standards, they are no longer "jehovah's witnesses”.

  .. i finally got a hold of the "od book" (organized to do jehovah's will), the book that replaced the other "organized" book for field service and congregational arrangements.

  i was reading through this and noticed an irony starting on page 155. this section deals with "disassociation"... (i'm sure others have already seen or discussed this, but i've been running behind lately).. "a person might renounce his place in the christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming  part of a secular organization that has objectives contrary to the bible and, hence, is under judgment by jehovah god.

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  The problem is Jehovah's witnesses don't follow their own standards 😂🤣😂🤣
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  Reddit thread on convention video urging cutting off contact with Faders

  by LongHairGal in

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  i just read this.

  don’t know if anybody here has seen the video.. the intended result of this is to obviously scare ‘faders’ out of the shadows.

  now, they are being threatened with loss of association with their loved ones and friends.

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  Matthew 18: 15 - 17 is addressed to who?
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  What did the WTS say the "inner rooms" to find safety

  by blondie in

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  as recently as 2025, the wts has compared the "inner rooms" to the congregation as a place of safety.

  do you remember this?

  notice the "weasel words" the wts uses to lay the foundation for "adjustment" or "clarification" of their statements.

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  From what they are saying, staying close to congregation equally means staying close to their principal members of the congregation they belong. I don't think it means the kingdom halls going by congregations and the numbers that uses the kingdom hall.

  A ploy to rely heavily on the instructions given to the elders. Just like every member are aksed to update their records with their group overseers in case of emergency.
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  Seeking JW friend

  by Jujitz in

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  hello: i'm currently not yet a jehovah's witness but i'm seeking a friend to help me to better understand their doctrine.

  thank you.

  david.

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  Longlivetherenegades

  I will advise you start from the arrow head of their doctrine not always visible but the deadliest of all.

  Jehovah's organization

  It is the most deadliest of all their doctrine because Jehovah's organization = Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses = 11 gods.

  Your approved association with Jehovah’s witnesses and by extension God = Jehovah's organization = Governing Body of Jehovah's requires accepting 101% that they are the only Channel to salvation.

  If you can successfully find this teaching in the Bible and Jehovah’s witnesses readily convince you to agree to such teaching be ready to carry your burden after getting you isolated from your loves one before you get dumped when you no longer bow to your gods.

  The question you need to ask do you need to be in a religious organization to be saved? Does God require you be a member of a Christian denomination to be saved? Is the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses from God and supported scripturally?
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  Exclusivity: Jehovah's Witnesses common denominator with other Christian denominations

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  one thread recently stated, the religious organization of jehovah's witnesses started as a protestant or pentecostal as it were then ended up being roman catholic in their mode of operations.

  the evidence of their being exclusive is found in their own publications.... .

  obviously, a basis for approved fellowship with jehovah’s witnesses cannot rest merely on a belief in god, in the bible, in jesus christ, and so forth.

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  One thread recently stated, the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses started as a protestant or pentecostal as it were then ended up being Roman Catholic in their mode of operations. The evidence of their being exclusive is found in their own publications....

  Obviously, a basis for approved fellowship with Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot rest merely on a belief in God, in the Bible, in Jesus Christ, and so forth. The Roman Catholic pope, as well as the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, professes such beliefs, yet their church memberships are exclusive of each other. Likewise, simply professing to have such beliefs would not authorize one to be known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses..... Watchtower April 1986

  What can be drawn from the above as it applies to the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses and other Christian denominations

  1. Approved fellowship with Jehovah’s Witnesses and other Christian denominations cannot rest merely on a belief in God, in the Bible, in Jesus Christ.

  2. That The Roman Catholic pope, as well as the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, professes such beliefs, yet their church memberships are exclusive of each other is enough standing for Jehovah’s witnesses to be exclusive from other Christian denominations.

  3. Jehovah's Witnesses agree to the fact that their are some beliefs unique to other Christian denominations which Jehovah’s witnesses often classify as false teachings and they used in labeling them false Christians but will not readily accept their own unique beliefs used to assert exclusivity are equally stated to be false.

  4. Jehovah's Witnesses uses the template of Christendom aka Babylon the great in their mode of operation and therefore not different from those they love to condemn.
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  The Big Secret

  by finishedmystery in

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  when the gb brought a formal end to all the type/antitypes in so many ways it could be said that they brought the religion to an end.

  the other sheep/anointed teaching that leads to a two class religion was originally based on two antitypes--the jehu/jehonadab relationship and something about the cities of refuge.

  in that 2014 annual meeting talk david splane even specifically stated that the cities of refuge has no antitype.

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  Nice references to be archived @ blondie
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  "JEHOVAH'S" witnesses: How could WE get the name so wrong????

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
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  the "slave's" understanding of the scriptures must be correct, so here's a clarification: ©.

  (matthew 10:18) ....before governors and kings for jehovah's sake, for a witness..... (mark 13:9) ...be put on the stand......for jehovah's sake, for a witness to them.

  (luke 24:47, 48) .

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  @ Duran

  Your master Jesus last words on earth is to be witness of who? Jehovah? 😂🤣🤣
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  WT JUNE 2025 MODESTLY accept what YOU do not know

  by blondie in

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  pp.

  14-19 just some quote and a few comments from me, very, very repetitious.

  the gb seems to think that the rank and file came up the years 1914, 1925, 1975, generation (70-80 years from 1914=1994), overlapping generations.

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  Can any one of Jehovah's witnesses of note on this platform find a particular scripture that states clearly that one particular year, day or time will be the start of the last days.

  More like the Bible stated clearly that one particular year or day or month when we do our calculations right will be the start of the last days.

  I remember Ray Franz raising a question regarding the last days as it applies to the scriptures below.....

  Acts 2: 14...Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: ''‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.

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  2 Timothy 3: 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy

  Ray Franz said.....

  That the “last days” began in 1914, and that when the apostle Peter (at Acts 2:17) spoke of the last days as applying from Pentecost on, he did not mean the same “last days” that Paul did (at 2 Timothy 3:1)? Where?

  Jehovah's witnesses love ensuring things are divided into two. Are we having two set of last days in the Bible?
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  WT June '25: Why Can't We Turn Studies Into Baptisms?

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/t_mpdwsqpy0?si=okf4bsfsqfed0szp.

  study article 27 under the title :"help bible students to take a stand for the truth" paragraph 1 *did you have reservations about becoming one of jehovah’s witnesses?

  perhaps you were afraid that your workmates, friends, or family would turn against you.

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  Longlivetherenegades

  Nice