Posts by Sevan

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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

by slimboyfat in

they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

Sevan

Really good comments everyone! Agreed!

For me, the de-emphasis of Jesus and the emphasis and praise of the governing body increasingly bothered me. I may have noticed this more than others, being a convert from "Christendom" and all.

That talk at the annual meeting in 2014 by Tight Pants Tony was all kinds of crazy. Our Kingdom Hall had a showing of the annual meeting and I was railing to my husband about how messed up his talk was the minute we got in the car and the whole way home. That was a real wake up call for me as I was always told how humble and godly the GB members were. I didn't see any of that in Tony. I saw a judgemental, bigoted, pompous, self-righteous man. I didn't see how this man could have so much more Holy Spirit than me and be a in a bosom position with God and then be exhibiting these qualities.

I also increasingly noticed how unhappy the friends were at the Kingdom Hall. And how unhappy I was. I just kept thinking about that scripture where Jesus said come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you ... for my yoke is kindly and my load is light. I just kept thinking how that was not the case, how the burden from the Society was so heavy and how we were never good enough.

There are so many other things, but I don't want to fill pages, lol.

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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

by slimboyfat in

they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

Sevan

Should be jwsurvey.org

http://jwsurvey.org

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Two Sparrows

by The Searcher in

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Sevan

Brits have an interesting sense of humor ...

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Education or propaganda?

by Anders Andersen in

looking for some material to post on facebook or at least share with my wife to somewhat inoculate her mind before the convention this weekend.. found this gem...it's as if the writers are apostates reasoning against the tactics used at this years convention.....(probably old news to many here....quite new for me).. the cunning propagandist loves such shortcuts—especially those that short-circuit rational thought.

propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic.

as history bears out, such tactics can prove all too effective.. [...].

Sevan

Thanks for this!

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Availability Crisis of Conscience.

by Ben131895 in

most of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.

deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.

on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.

Sevan

I don't understand. Why is this book so difficult to get published?

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Availability Crisis of Conscience.

by Ben131895 in

most of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.

deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.

on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.

Sevan

For me, I really needed CoC. It confirmed so much of what I was already thinking/feeling and really exposed the Watchtower in the gentle and kind way that I needed. Anger just turned me off and made me think "apostate" and shut down. Ray Franz had a fantastic way of expressing himself.

In addition, he destroyed the illusion of the Governing Body, which I really needed. As a r&f witness, you are constantly asked to look up to and revere the gb. You are told they have a special helping of Holy Spirit and deep closeness with Jehovah. That they are specially equipped to interpret and understand the scriptures. That they are the most humble and like Jesus. Even though I was already strongly suspecting otherwise, especially after Anthony Morris III came on the scene with all his hateful vitriol, I needed that confirmation and proof.

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Availability Crisis of Conscience.

by Ben131895 in

most of us are desperately waiting for the availability of a legal crisis of conscience.

deborah dykstra provided us with two updates.

on december 12, 2015 there was a clear statement about the copyright which stopped all illegal activity in spreading electronic versions & prints.. finally, she promised a new update by or before may 6.. so far no new update.

Sevan

I read Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom recently as a PDF on Scribd. Not sure if this is a legal distribution or not.

I found both books immensely helpful in confirming my awakening, along with jwfacts.com, jwsurvey.com, YouTube and message boards. Wikipedia helped a lot too, because a lot of the information can be confirmed on Wikipedia with sources. Also Watchtower Documents was really helpful to be able to look at the actual literature in question.

Honestly, Cedars videos on YouTube are what woke me up initially. I was actually looking up Witness videos on YouTube and stumbled across his channel. So, regardless of whatever controversy there is, his videos are valuable and very helpful.

I tried to buy CoC on Amazon and it was like $175. I ended up downloading Scribd just so I could read CoC.

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Any Reviews or Feedback from the District Convention??

by daringhart13 in

i stopped in to see if that are any overwhelming statistics, stories or feedback from people regarding the 2016 district convention.....haven't seen much...... any stories or threads?.

Sevan

MIL - This may be our last convention

Friend1 - Convention was awesome!

Friend 2 - Best Convention EVER!!! We say that every year, but this one you can take to the bank!

Friend3 - Historic convention!

Friend675 (jk, but a lot of different people) - Best Convention EVER!!!

Typical empty platitudes and cult indoctrination.

Then I deleted everyone on my social media that was a Witness. Just so done with hearing about this culty nonsense and horrible religion.

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The Shunning truth is now out...

by babygirl30 in

jw
friends

i have been df'd for 9yrs as of july 31 (yay me!).

so as i have written about previously in other posts, my whole family (parents + sister) made the choice to treat me as if i do not exist, and i have accepted it.

last summer they made a blatant show of it as our family reunion, in that they would walk right by me and not say one word...prompting our extended family to question their actions.

Sevan

Hey we got shunned by my husband's super self-righteous brother without even being inactive. We simply weren't doing enough in his estimation, so he has been shunning us. He still hasn't even laid eyes on my 7 month old son and he only lives 2 hours away.

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Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

by punkofnice in

it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

have others noticed this?.

Sevan

punkofnice, well you know how Americans are about British accents. I don't know why, but we just love them! Half the reason for watching British shows is the accent! :)