Posts by Sevan

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Blood card

by Inabunker in

hi new to forum and first post!

i have been reading posts on and off for years.

still fighting my "doubts" and struggling internally, my family is active and the wife knows nothing of my late night website reads here.

Sevan

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blood-transfusions.php

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Woman's Purpose

by StopTheTears in

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i'm probably going to say some things here that will disappoint many.

there are some that may look back over the years and say "man i really blew it" i'm not writing the following to scold for failures, but rather to help those who are young enough to put into practice what god wills for their life, and also to those of us who are in our middle years that still have time to change some things, in order to please god and find a peace that only being in his will can bring.

first let me say that god didn't create man for you.

Sevan

Lol, trolls be trolling.

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Can someone help me

by stephanie61092 in

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friends

a girl i've known my entire life who supported me from a distance after i was disfellowshipped sent me this message on instagram today: .

let me know when your back... i'm unfollowing you on ig & snap.

i love you.

Sevan

Remember that she may very well care about you on her own. Remember that if it were not for the cult, you most likely would still be friends. Remember that her mind is not her own. That is a sad place to be for any human.

Most of all, be thankful to be free. To follow your own conscience. To live a life of love and joy.

Know that if there is a God, that being is absolute love. That being is not so small and petty as we humans and the major religions make that being out to be.

The religious philosophies have many important lessons and are important culturally. However, they also reflect the values of the humans that wrote them. Just as the philosophies of jw org reflects the values of the humans that write them. By placing their words in the context of an Almighty God, they ascribe weight and authority to those words, rather than allowing those words to stand on their own.

If the jw org practice of shunning stood on its own, few would follow it because it is ludicrous and unloving on its face. However, by subscribing God to this concept, jw org has hoodwinked many otherwise decent people into practicing that which is thoroughly indecent.

Continue in love, kindness and compassion regardless of your religious beliefs or lack thereof and you will be alright. You will have a beautiful life.

I firmly believe that if there is a God, that being *is* absolute love and that all things done in love are godly. That we are here to love and help our fellow beings now and not tomorrow.

That if there is a God of pure love, that being will not punish you for not knowing all the answers or for being mistaken. How can we be expected to know the right answer with a million different philosophies and such limited information? I believe God is greater than that. I may be wrong. I guess I'll find out one way or the other in the end.

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Today's Text - Sacrifice To God!

by Divergent in

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sunday, august 14. if she cannot afford a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons.—lev.

12:8.. according to the mosaic law, the israelites were to offer specific sacrifices.

(lev.

Sevan

Exactly stuckinarut2. As the jw org always says, "now we are not under the law, but the principle still applies." *facepalm* If we are not under the law, how does the principle still apply? Like you said, either the law applies or it doesn't.

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Interracial Relationships and JWs

by HiddlesWife in

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i've noticed that within the past couple of decades, i don't see a lot of interracial relationships (ir, for short) in the org.. i, myself, was involved in an ir over 2-3 decades ago and was engaged to get married [my ethnicity is: african-american and latina; my ex-fiance's ethnicity is: scottish and italian].

he broke off the engagement, after three years of friendship and two years of dating, because his uncle and another brother (who was a temporary volunteer at bethel) pressured him to end our relationship [p.s.

: his mother was quite close to my mother, one of my sisters and one of my close cousins.

Sevan

I've seen a lot of interracial and inter-ethnic couples in the hall. I've never heard anything negative against it. I lived in California. I don't know if that makes a difference. I'm sorry about what happened to you though. On the bright side, at least you are free to make your own decisions now.

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Judicial Committees should have an option to be public

by EndofMysteries in

thinking back to how they went from votes by the congregation under russels time to private closed doors in rutherfords time so as to not waste time, etc, of other members.

if it really wasn't to hide things from the org, it would have an option for the person it's against to have it open to the public.

a time announced for any members or the person to bring any they want to attend.

Sevan

Hmmm, could a system that is conducted entirely in secret and in which the same men are investigator, prosecutor, judge and executor be primed for abuse? Hmmm ....

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Paranormal Warning

by Cold Steel in

i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

Sevan

Wow, these are really interesting thoughts to think about snare&racket.

This is the first time in my life that I've allowed myself to question the Bible. Before I was a JW, I was raised a Christian and was taught that the Bible was the inerrant word of God. It never occurred to me to question it because who am I to question God, even though there were always things that I didn't understand or didn't seem just.

I haven't given up on God, but there are things in the Bible that I've decided cannot come from a God that is love.

At any rate, I am open to questioning and challenging all my beliefs for the first time in my life, so I appreciate conversations like this that challenge my preconceptions.

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Plastic Surgery

by raven in

hi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!

anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!

) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?

Sevan

Yeah, she commits tax fraud too according to my husband. The thing is she hides everything and denies denies denies. I found her fake Facebook account under a false name that is just for her double life. My husband mentioned it to her and she immediately took it down. Then put it back up a couple of weeks later under a different false name, lol.

My husband and I don't care enough about her business to make a deal of it with the elders. Not to mention that if my husband ever tried to get her df'd by bringing up all he knows to the elders, it would be WWIII between her and him and she would make his life hell. Because she's super vindictive like that. She's already put him through the ringer as it is, so he really doesn't want to poke the bear.

Honestly, I would find that kind of lifestyle exhausting. I don't understand people that put on pretenses like that. Such a waste of time if you ask me.

Yeah, and I agree with you about the one guy situation. Plus you are not even going anymore, so what do they care? Some elders let stuff slide and some enjoy the witch hunt. Sounds like you have witch hunting elders unfortunately.

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Complaining over post dislikes / downvotes

by Simon in

let's be clear: people have the right to like or dislike what they want - that is why the option is there.

as long as they are not doing it in a malicious way to retaliate or game the system, there is no policing the votes.

if you get a down-vote, live with it.

Sevan

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I've had enough..

by raven in

so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?

i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?

quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!

Sevan

Wow, so sorry your mother sold you out like that. This cult really perverts normal family relationships.

Most normal families have a ride or die mentality and back up their own.

All of my bio family are not JWs and they are like that. Seeing their enduring support and unconditional love is one of the things that helped wake me up, since it is such a contrast to the organization.