i just got a phone call from someone i used to know, oh, about 25 years ago.
she and her cousin and i hung out together as single pioneers -- they got married, i got married, we lost touch.
well, turns out she now goes to the same congregation as one of the witnesses who works at my law firm -- the same one who, months ago when i started telling people i was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses, told me i could believe what i want but "don't make trouble for the rest of us" -- and evidently the two ladies got to talking and my co-worker gave her my phone number at home.
Cruzan, we used to stop after meetings at Braum's also, especially during the summer months. Braums was always filled to capacity and their hamburgers are the best (especially with the cherry limeade).
TresHappy
(of the "wishing for a Braum's cheeseburger about this time" class)
i just got a phone call from someone i used to know, oh, about 25 years ago.
she and her cousin and i hung out together as single pioneers -- they got married, i got married, we lost touch.
well, turns out she now goes to the same congregation as one of the witnesses who works at my law firm -- the same one who, months ago when i started telling people i was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses, told me i could believe what i want but "don't make trouble for the rest of us" -- and evidently the two ladies got to talking and my co-worker gave her my phone number at home.
The company's Christmas party: fun for you! I love company parties like that. Lawyers love to show off, so you'll probably have the best spread of food. I always loved the chocolate at my company parties. I LOVE CHOCOLATE. Which is why I am on a diet and chocolate has become a rare treat.
i just got a phone call from someone i used to know, oh, about 25 years ago.
she and her cousin and i hung out together as single pioneers -- they got married, i got married, we lost touch.
well, turns out she now goes to the same congregation as one of the witnesses who works at my law firm -- the same one who, months ago when i started telling people i was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses, told me i could believe what i want but "don't make trouble for the rest of us" -- and evidently the two ladies got to talking and my co-worker gave her my phone number at home.
Oh cruzan, I see the red flags all over this. I can't believe she gave out your number, that's always Rule #1 of the never to do's w/o the permission of the person (especially in an office setting.) Perhaps she figures "in the name of Jehovah" she can bypass man's rules in favor of "saving you."
Reminds me of that Watchtower article years ago about the person who saw the private medical records of a JW she knew who had an abortion and the Society said "you must break man's rules for God's" or something like that. I remember thinking then nothing was safe from the prying eyes of the nosy elders.
this is one you cannot miss!.
october 17-19, 2003. hosted at.
1 christian lane at blue mountain drive.
Mouthy - Darlene's been there several times. Her mother is a JW.
I am so looking forward to yapping and giggling with everyone. It will be a blessing to see everyone there, the Vienots, Joan, and especially Grace. I am so looking forward to it .
Tres Happy
hey folks.. i have been debating for some time about changing my surname.. as it stands, it's in its typical patriarchial form (my father's surname) and honestly, i'd like to change it to my mother's surname.. i would not deny that my father was my father, but i cannot say that he, or his family have been ever there for me.
my memories of them, for the most part are awful.. my mother is no angel, nor is she perfect, but i do have some connection to that side, and my grandmother (maternal) is my number 1 support person in the family.
when i think back at family that were there for me during rough times, it was relatives on my mom's side.
MacLeod - you could tell people you're related to the actor who played Captain Steubing on "Love Boat."
this is one you cannot miss!.
october 17-19, 2003. hosted at.
1 christian lane at blue mountain drive.
Mouthy,
Yes I put a deposit down there. I don't know where I'll be staying, I have that piece of paper somewhere...Darlene wants to say in the dormitory there, however I told her I would pay her difference to bunk with me in a room. I'll be flying into Pittsburgh earlier in the week and pay tribute to the victims of Flight 93, visiting my favorite person's pyramid grave in Pittsburgh and then going to the retreat. After that, we are planning to go to NYC for a day or two. Still trying to iron out all those arrangements.
But so looking forward to seeing everyone there.
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just on cnn.com.
wonder what started it.. ash
Ashitaka,
When I was in high school, I took 3 years of French and had 2 pen pals in France. One who lived in the suburbs of Paris, another along the Cote D'Azur in Cannes (French Riviera.) I saved my money throughout high school and visited Europe for a month in 1980. Then I made it back several more times (1981, 1985, 1987, 1989, 1990) before my free stays dried up. My friends let me stay with them when I was there, especially in Paris. I would take the train in to Paris everyday and hang out. My friend went with me a few times, I went alone sometimes, and also went in organized groups. The French I forgot quickly came back to me because my friend spoke English about as good as I spoke French. We both had headaches at the end of the day from all the speaking in different languages and translating in our heads. I still correspond with both of my friends today, however it's done via the Internet. They both have AOL instant messenger and we talk. When I can't translate something I want to say, I go to a free online translator service and translate it, copy and paste into the message and voila, instant french speaking girl that I am. And to think I used to have to wait two weeks for a letter to come from there!
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just on cnn.com.
wonder what started it.. ash
Yes Nina, the view is much better than the trip. We were warned about pickpockets on the elevator . Although I have been to Paris several times, I made it only once to the top of the tower. That was in 1980. My favorite thing in Paris I found on my last trip - Musee D'Orsay. An old train station they turned into an art museum! What a wonderful sight. I got the biggest kick out of seeing a famous painting - "Whistler's Mother." I had no idea it was in Paris, let alone the Musee D'Orsay. I went the year after they built the Pyramid at the Louvre. It was great going through all the new exhibits. Still the sight from looking from the Arc de Triomphe down the Champs-Elysee, that's the most enduring part of the city I adore. La Ville Lumiere!
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just on cnn.com.
wonder what started it.. ash
Sorry to hear that.
How many on this forum have been to the top of the Eiffel Tower? Beautiful sight, isn't it?
If you have, say "aye."
in may my beloved grandmother passed away at the age of 87. it was a long struggle for her, and i thought i was dealing with her death pretty well.
well yesterday, i went to my jw parents for a visit (had not been there in several months.
) the first thing mom wanted me to do was to look in my grandmother's personal possessions to see if was there anything i wanted.
Teeny:
Almost all JW's that I know that have passed away have chose immediate cremation and then had a memorial "talk" at the KH or at the funeral home chapel.
I know during the 1800's it was quite common for the family of the departed to gather around the open coffin for a photo. Sometimes that would be the only "group" photo the family would have, especially if it were a child.
I knew a couple whose newborn passed away soon after birth; they took photos or they wouldn't have had any of their child. I can see that.
I suppose my thought about the whole weekend regarding my grandmother is that I don't feel she was properly honored. She was buried in a pink pantsuit, she never wore pink, she loved the color red, so why the hell did my JW mother choose pink for her mom? Everyone that knew her kept coming up and asking and saying the same thing. My father talked a little about grandmother, and then talked INCESSANTLY about where she was in the afterlife. I mean it was long and winded and everyone's body language spoke volumes (checking their watches several times, yawning, slightly moving in their seats, looking back at me for fear they'd hurt my feelings.) Most of these relatives were all of my extended family of cousins, spouses, cousins' kids, nieces, nephews, etc. Seeing this photograph just brought back all those emotions. I was a wreck Saturday night. I shouldn't have let it get to me, it was combination grief and all this crap of a belief system that I left (and oh so glad I did.)
My aunt (mom's sister) was so frustrated/stressed/grieved about the whole thing. She calls my mother two days later after the funeral and tells my mother about her new 1/2 sister! This previous thread linked below explains everything. I personally think she did it to "get back" at my mother because none of my aunt's wishes were listened to or considered regarding her mother. My aunt and my father got into it at the hospital because she told him that she knew that he was going to say things that she didn't believe. Then dad starts trying to defend his beliefs and she told him what he could do with it. (I sort of wish I'd been there!) She took it upon herself to do a collage of grandmother's photos, from child to young woman to elderly years.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/52327/1.ashx
In retrospect, I am much better and will not allow my parents' actions or any other JW event/affair/organized thing to bother me like this anymore. I will focus on the positive and fun memories of my grandmother and honor her in my way, the way a loving grandchild would do. And in all of this, I realize how much I love my parents and how thoroughly deceived they are!
