Posts by Trilobite

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How to Disperse the UN Story

by indireneed in

as i always am when i turn to your discussion board.. after reading the unbelievable news about the bestiality practiced by the governing body, i have been looking for a way to break the news in my local area.

i would really like to have the newspaper to pick up the story so it could in turn provoke a discussion with my wife.. i was thinking an opinion / letter to the editor article might help in this respect, and so i wrote one up.

i am posting it here to see if anyone has any comments or suggestions.. the worship of the seemingly powerful.

Trilobite

indireneed,

Excellent letter. I think that no one approach works best. One thing to consider doing is to include copies of the three Guardian articles which tell the UN story very nicely. You might even want to make ref. to The Guardian explicitly in your letter - I don't know.

I suggest this because it is my impression that the UK press and the US press operate somewhat differently. Lots of local US papers, and even larger ones, rely heavily on reports from AP etc. The UK papers also do this but tend also to have more independent investigative reporting of international affairs. So, local papers (apart from local news) tend to rely rather heavily on AP originating stories. Since the Guardian is an internationally known paper, and esp. the Weekly this might help improve the odds.

BEcaus ethe Washington Post is a sister paper of the Guardian and also contributes to the Gdn Weekly maybe that's an angle too.

Good luck,

T.

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COC book please please

by gotcha in

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who is willing to loan me their coc and in search for xtian freedom and other books pls?

but the thing is you have to send it to me in the philippines.

if there is a way i could pay you please let me know.

Trilobite

chk yr email.

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

Trilobite

Mad,

My hat is off to you. Even a hardened apostate such as myself is genuinely shocked at the events of the past few weeks. And now, to invoke Confucius to support non-military alternatives to military service, considering that this was banned until recently, is almost beyond belief.

Thus, while he was in favor of harmony, Confucius did not advocate conformity and blind obedience.

Mad, tell me you are making this up - this from WTS legal?

My exercise prgram has gone to hell lately and I can only blame you and hawk and the rest of yr ilk. Give it a rest, I need a life....

T.

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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

Trilobite

Stephen Bates strikes again in an unrelated but very interesting article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4279727,00.html

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Single Witness club on Yahoo clubs

by slipnslidemaster in

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http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/singlewitnesses.

let the hilarity ensue... i've already started over there, i think you should too.. slipnslidemaster:"and now about the cauldron sing, like elves and fairies in a ring, enchanting all that you put in.".

- william shakespeare, macbeth

Trilobite

another: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/loyaltytojehovah

It occurs to me that we should make random but short, articulate, postings on all sorts of discussion boards; just to increase public awareness. For example the IBM stock discussion board. Obviously most will ignore, but not all.

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Single Witness club on Yahoo clubs

by slipnslidemaster in

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friends

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/singlewitnesses.

let the hilarity ensue... i've already started over there, i think you should too.. slipnslidemaster:"and now about the cauldron sing, like elves and fairies in a ring, enchanting all that you put in.".

- william shakespeare, macbeth

Trilobite

toddy, enjoy: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/singlewitnesses

also: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/

it's under "Issues"

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Single Witness club on Yahoo clubs

by slipnslidemaster in

jw
friends

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/singlewitnesses.

let the hilarity ensue... i've already started over there, i think you should too.. slipnslidemaster:"and now about the cauldron sing, like elves and fairies in a ring, enchanting all that you put in.".

- william shakespeare, macbeth

Trilobite

Amazing, now that the apostates have been flushed they are back to the serious question of who plays the guitar. The Guardian board is getting active and it looks like it's attracting newcomers from the UK judging by the genteel level of abuse: smugface

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JWs reasons for the UN fiasco

by AMarie in

before i get started, please let me emphasize that i am not a witness nor ever will be again.

many of their policies are crooked and underhanded.

however, i did some more research on the un thing and found out valid reasons why the wtbts joined.

Trilobite

Amanda,

Apart from all the other comments, most of which I generally agree with, then why doesn't the WTS simply issue a press release that explains why it joined and why it left?

Also, why is it that the average JW refuses to accept that even a casual link (which this is not) could exist.

Your points are well taken, but if you've never been a JW it is hard to understand how significant this is.

T.

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E-Petitions etc

by Trilobite in

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i apologize for harping on the same theme; however, i feel that at this juncture we need to step up the heat.

merely talking amongst ourselves is not going to achieve too much.

the un/wts issue, together with silentlambs and ajwrb, presents, in my view, the greatest opportunity in a long time for getting results.

Trilobite

last, desperate, attempt to get people to put their money where their mouth is. After this, I'm outta here.

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Do The Math II

by silentlambs in

the following is a few emails i exchanged with carlos mora.

i ask you to read them and see if you might find a better way to appeal to someone with this mind set.

perhaps it will help to understand the way a good portion of jws will reason on the child molestation issue.

Trilobite

Bill,

Again, the obivous response is that the Society could make a small "mathematical" change which would change the supposed "handful" into a negligible amount. The responses you have already received show an ignorance of both statistics and humanity.

On a bigger note: the way we operate is crap. AJWRB has failed, so far, partly because it was so hesitant about soliciting money. Will silentlambs be the same? I hope not. The JW mindset prevails even after we think we are free.

Fuck, Bill, what bigger issues could we have; what more "opportune time"? Set up a giant paypal account, run by you, at your ultimate discretion, but accepting suggestions from all who donate, and not confined to to a single issue. Lee Elder is all about blood, silentlambs is all about child abuse. According to you, if the Society changed the rules on abuse you'd be happy and would close your site. Lee'd be happy if they accepted new rule son blood. Ain't gonna happen. Damn it all guys, the org. is corrupt and so let's go after that. Life does not work in the way that you seem to think it does. These guys do not give a fuck. It is a delusion to ask for change on a specific issue, you have to slam them wholesale.

You guys, however, have gone so far already....no complaints. It's just that if you really want change then the gloves have to be burned.

David