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  Britain in the doldrums!

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

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  the 2014 - 2015 jw statistics showed a peak publisher decline of 884 with the average publisher tally showing a gain of 183. .

  the 2017 yearbook is now available via jw.org and the statistics for britain show a 2016 peak publisher increase of 630 and an average publisher increase of a paltry 26!.

  nothing to shout about on the part of the followers of caiaphas in the britain branch.

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  Few years ago a co who is in Bethel now told me that almost all growth in the UK Is because of immigrants, mainly from Poland.

  My experience is: Brits don't go to ministry on evenings when people are in. Saturday mornings are mostly not at homes and only an hour. And then coffee stop. No wonder no new converts, youths bored and all discouraged.

  Immigrants are far more industrious . I keep seeing polish and Slovak jaws in my area at nigh time doing d2d. They preach as they work - hard. I apologise Brits but they have more power. Besides, they as newcomers create sort of support groups.. and they need it.
  
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  a theory- different scenario for future of JW

  by closed in

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  why does the org sell so many properties?

  i just was wondering... may be they are thinking of ditching 1914 doctrine and other teachings.

  it will be not a new light but completely different religion.

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  I am just thinking. The gb must know ( don't they) that overlapping generation idea doesn't agree with many r&f. They must feel that 1914 can be another failure as 1975 etc. You can't drag the last days indefinitely. And they want to secure future existence of their business to help it survive coming collapse.
  
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  a theory- different scenario for future of JW

  by closed in

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  why does the org sell so many properties?

  i just was wondering... may be they are thinking of ditching 1914 doctrine and other teachings.

  it will be not a new light but completely different religion.

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  Why does the org sell so many properties? I just was wondering... May be they are thinking of ditching 1914 doctrine and other teachings. It will be not a new light but completely different religion. It will be sharp decline in followers because of it. And now my theory. They pile up the cash to survive years of decline. It is not about payments for molesters victims but they are preparing for drastic change of teachings and drop in members. What do you think?
  
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  jw celebrity advert in gey newspaper

  by closed in

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  i think is rather funny.

  the king in gay magazine😁 but business is business, isn't it?.

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  http://southfloridagaynews.com/Music/singer-nicolas-king-wows-crowd-at-palm-beachs-colony-hotel.html sorry this is the link
  
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  jw celebrity advert in gey newspaper

  by closed in

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  i think is rather funny.

  the king in gay magazine😁 but business is business, isn't it?.

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  I think is rather funny. The King in gay magazine😁 but business is business, isn't it?
  
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  Has there ever been a time when someone has been outed as a JW mole on this forum?

  by Tenacious in

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  having been a jw for decades i'm used to watching what i do, say, or watch, in fear of being snitched on.. therefore, i the question begs.. there have been instances, i won't say how, where i've felt some members are being deliberate in their attempt to feign support for the anti-jw rhetoric on this forum.. any input is greatly appreciated..

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  I haven't been here long. But I know that on Polish forum was a Gilead graduate and another high rank bethelite actually blackmailing some users user wts facts would know more.
  
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  What was the biggest hypocrisy you have seen while a witness?

  by HereIgo in

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  i have far too many to name, however, i have noticed obscene music, cussing, lying and secretive gambling to name a few.

  thoughts?.

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  Elders daughter living with her JW gay partner for over a decade and because her dad was good pal of congs coordinator no actions whatsoever :) an elder who objected the plot was removed and his name and his family taken through mud. It made me to step down from the privilege and opened my eyes. Besides CO was not even bothered to get involved. People who were in power in that cong had money ;) so.. Well..
  
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  What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

  by pale.emperor in

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  when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

  for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

  i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

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  I am still in because of family. I have read CoC, Hawkins and Dowkins, and many blasphemous Watchtower books from beginning of XX century. I turned down an offer to be appointed elder although I do things for people in my cong.
  
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  Convention

  by Gorbatchov in

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  gorby is as you know a long time fader.. visited the convention this weekend.. and concluded that samuel herds talk about hope was not so bad at all, it was well balanced.

  made some good points.. knowing both sides of the medallion, have to admit he was humble with a focus on hope.. the saturday drama impressed me.

  of course, there is a lot to say about the organization, this professional produced movie in a "true story" scenario, gave me the insight that hope is important for suffering people.

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  Gorby. I wish you all the best. And I am sure you will be fine whatever happens to you. You are level headed chap. If it's good - it's good good. Doesn't matter what's the source.
  
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  Subtle Differences in congregations

  by SouthCentral in

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  i grew up in a very zealous congregation.

  we had almost 40 pioneers with only 100 publishers.

  the congregation was 100% black americans (i don't say african-american).

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  UK 2015; all white English, app 100 pub, 25000 town, an emigrant from Poland refused to be appointed as en elder for half a year, even though he had recommendation from previous Cong in UK, Cob told him that his Polish-ness is a problem. And very soon they had him resign/ taken off.