Posts by gorgia

how often did i hear a fake job advert for pioneering where there was 100% job satisfaction working for the most powerful person in the universe and you'd get to travel the world and live forever.... i've done both jobs and would say that the job advert should more honestly read like this:.

secular job.

gorgia

Wow - having had so-called 'weak spiritually' parents, I grew up seeing pioneers only from afar - they were the lofty ones who seemed to have 'the secret' of JDub happiness & fulfilment. I remember meetings when the elders read from the platform some particular full-time pioneer's staggeringly impressive hours and everyone would clap.

I also remember most of my peers were set on leaving highschool early with one purpose in mind - to pioneer. They all seemed so eager and matter-of-fact about it - none of them said their parents were forcing them, but I'll bet behind the scenes they were hardly given much choice as to their futures. I wasn't allowed to finish highschool or go to university, but I am forever grateful my parents were not of the 'super-witness' ilk and insisted on me going door to door for umpteen hours in the Aussie summer for no pay & zero reception.

I would like to thank those who posted honestly about their pioneering experiences.

gorgia

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SkyGreen is no longer one of Jehovahs Witnesses... Why?

by SkyGreen in

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wow it felt good to type that heading, if only it were officially true!.

i guess i dont want to dwell on "ttatt" too much, though i am now an inactive jw now, and will be forever, i dont want to be defined by that.

but i will certainly keep an eye on this forum, contribute where i feel i can, and i must say thankyou to those who moderate it and keep it running.

gorgia

SkyGreen,

It was lovely to read your post. I hope you are enjoying your family & that your mother respects your decisions. My mother made me feel very guilty when I first stopped going to the meetings when I was a teenager. Now I am in my thirties & my mother no longer goes to meetings herself! We talk regularly about TTAT; its been a long time coming but I am so glad she is now free too.

gorgia

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just support please

by Roberta804 in

i have had to make some very difficult decisions in recent days.

in one way i feel good about takeing care of myself and my mother who is on her dead bed in the room next to me.

mom has live with me since 2005 and started to make her journey to the other side on christmas day.

gorgia

Roberta,

How fortunate you are to be supporting your mother during her passing in your own home. When my father was dying, he was in a hospice for a short amount of time, & here I had a small degree of influence, (taping a letter above his bed for all his relatives - jw & non-jw - to read, asking them to stop arguing over his bed), but when they brought him back to his home I had no power at all to stop the jw-influence from contaminating this precious time I had with my father.

You've already been incredibly strong, IMO. Your mother must be very proud of you.

I will be thinking of you,

gorgia

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I'm so offended by what happened today at the KIngdom Hall!!

by Vienna Angelika in

so today we were late for the meeting as usual.

this is because i take a really bad medication where i literally cannot function in the first part of the day but without it i am even worse.

we got there near the end of the talk and it was in my opinion very anoying.

gorgia

Vienna Angelika,

You sound like an adorable young lady. When I was a child/teen girl, the other girls in my hall were warned about the dangers of associating with me by their parents. Why? Because my parents were 'weak' spiritually. This resulted in me not being included in most of their social activities, especially when I was a teen. On the one hand, I was incredulous, (how do the opinions of others about my parents affect the quality of my friendship?!!), and on the other, (especially when I became a teenager) I was relieved. I was forced to make friends with 'worldly' girls, who turned out to be more relaxed, open & honest than the JDubs in my hall.

As for your health - it is absolutely none of this woman's business. I have memories of the elders' indifference to people's illnesses under their 'care'. Please continue to take care of yourself & try not to concentrate on people's ignorance.

x gorgia

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Do you think the WTS is about to change the doctrine about 1914? If so, what are the signs that is under way?

by EdenOne in

what the title says.

do you think the wts doctrine that says that christ was made king in 1914 is about to change?

if you think that's being orchestrated and prepared, do you see signs of that already?

gorgia

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What activity or dream did you put off till the New System?

by nochoice in

after reading the thread about jw kids getting gifts all year and not needing christmas, i thought about how i was told there would be plenty of toys in the new system.

i was told that on my birthday too.

and now i started thinking about all the things i justified suffering growing up as a kid, and then a teenager, and then an adult, because it would be better in the new system.

gorgia

As a child I found the very idea of paradise extremely depressing - I couldn't think of any place worse I'd rather spend eternity. All those animals acting stoned out of their faces on valium, people smiling all the time for no reason, the fashion sense looked dreadful ..... All I ever wanted was to go to university - ofcourse that wasn't an option. I may be in my 30's, but I've just been offered an EARLY PLACEMENT in a university!!!!! I had to do the special test to see if I could even apply, as I had to leave highschool early (plenty of you will know all about this) and I am super-excited to announce I start next year. So, nochoice I have started to fulfill a dream quashed by the JDubs years ago.

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Call Me Smiler

by Terry in

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call me smiler.

they none of 'em seem to figure out how bad it's gonna be when they play it.

a pastor, hurt hands and a smile...that's all you really need.. the doc knows what he's talkin' about, as usual.. like he says, "people only look at you once and then never see you again.

gorgia

I am - its great!

gorgia

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Do Witnesses Ever Talk About Their Living Forever And Never Dying?

by minimus in

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my 86 year old mother stopped believing she was going into paradise earth without dying first, about 10 years ago.

my aunt used to think she was going to make it through the great tribulation.

even a week before she died, she clung on to this fairy tale.. do you think jws believe they will never die at all and will, in their lifetime, be on a paradise earth to live forever?.

gorgia

I remember 20 years ago my father being labeled as 'worldly & materialistic' by the cong & family members for selling life insurance & certifiably evil for planning people's retirement funds when I was in my teens. Older JDub family members would ask me, when I was a child, why my father wanted to do that as a job when Armageddon was just around the corner? Isn't that misleading innocent people into thinking 'this system of things' is going to last?

I remember when my parents bought a lovely new house when I was in my twenties & my mum's JDub sister commented that it was a rather financially frivolous move, seeing as Armaggedon was coming. Not that long ago my aunt bought a brand new house, full of new furniture. That must have been a bit of a mind-shift.