Posts by new22day

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How Do I Explain To My TalkTherapist That JW's Believe They Will Never Die?

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i know for us exjw's that have awakened from this religion, it seems incredulous that we ever.

could have believed we were going to live forever and never die.. not just never die, but never die, like i was raised to believe with.

the millions now living will never die, garbage.. i said that to my highly educated professional therapist last week.. her eyes got big, and she said gently as to a child, "loislane, we are all going to die".. yes, i know that now, but that is not what my religion taught and i believed, for 60 years.. any thoughts on how i explain this lunacy to her?.

new22day

Hi Lois Lane, non-dub here... when I hear/read salient points like this from people like you I'm floored. Then I sit back and try to imagine what it might feel like, in this case, to think you would live forever. I can't do it. It's too hard to grasp but it makes me see how a JW's entire world/life view would be so different in so many major fundamental ways. Ugh! and then 'waking up' and realizing you WILL die along with everyone else, - - what a mind screw that would be. Living forever for sure would be a prime feature of the con this cult sells, so don't feel bad for believing it at one time. I wish everyone could wake up -- sigh!

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Are we alone?

by Xanthippe in

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friends

the title of this thread is the title of a chapter in the book by richard dawkins that i'm really enjoying in spite of or perhaps because of it having been written for young people.

i thought i would share a couple of paragraphs on his theories of the kind of bodies aliens on other planets might have :-.

'let's exercise our imaginations a bit more.

new22day

OMG! Maybe Dawkins is really a Mormon. They believe in aliens too, in fact they're starting up their own planets when they're done here. lol

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If you don't believe in God where do you get the strength to cope?

by Miss.Fit in

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i know there are some here that are going through some tough times.

some of you do not believe in god.

some are not sure.. i was told recently by a friend to pray to god for help and he would comfort me.. my first impulse is to pray.

new22day

Hi Miss Fit, No, you will not be hospitalized for your thoughts. Your thoughts, as painful as they are, are very common for people with depression. I would highly recommend you tell your doctor about them (I know that can be really hard to say out loud but you are not the only one and they hear this all the time).

Your doctor needs to guage the level of your depression so she/he can prescribe the appropriate medication(s) and other support to help you, and also to follow up with you in the initial few weeks you are doing treatment to ensure there are no issues. It's important for your doctor to understand how long you've been feeling depressed and how strong the feelings are. This also helps them with est. treatment timelines etc. Personally, I hesitated with my doctor on initial contact and that only prolonged things for me. The sooner you get help the sooner you can start to feel better - all the best and keep us posted on how you're doing.

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If you don't believe in God where do you get the strength to cope?

by Miss.Fit in

jw
friends

i know there are some here that are going through some tough times.

some of you do not believe in god.

some are not sure.. i was told recently by a friend to pray to god for help and he would comfort me.. my first impulse is to pray.

new22day

Aw Miss Fit, my heart is SO with you right now. Suicidal thoughts generally mean you have depression and depression is a serious (yet, very treatable) condition - it just takes time. Six months or so I had such a hard time just getting out of bed to go to work. It was awful and I couldn't see a way out of the darkness. Friends and family gave me all kinds of advice - eat healthy, excercise, get out of the house etc. (all good things that help) but I was struggling to just get to work each day and the extra 'to dos' overwhelmed me.

Talk to your doctor candidly like you have with us. She may offer you meds and they can help, though it can take a little time for you to notice the results. A little excercise can really help too if you can find a way to make that happen. The important thing is to do just what you're doing and seek help and talk to people. You are not invisible and you're not alone. People do love and care about you, more than you know!

I had a few more obstacles appear (had a bad accident and injury, which resulted in leaving my job but in the end that has been good for me) -- through all of that I came out of the darkness. I still have blue days but I have the strength to cope again. I shudder to remember how low I felt just a few months ago -- I just want you to understand and believe that it does get better and you will find yourself and happy feelings again. Be easy on yourself and hang in there.

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Poor Carly Simon

by Hortensia in

she looks so stiff and old next to taylor swift.

geriatric singer/songwriter.

nice to see them sing the song together, though.

new22day

How ironic that Taylor Swift is singing "you're so vain" - does she think the song is about her? Way to steal the spotlight. Carly rocks and is less 'plastic' on a few levels lol!

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Free today - the book I wish I'd found when I was getting out of JWs.

by AngusOg in

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it's called quitting jehovah's witnesses & other cults: how to do it & why you should, and i hope you'll check it out.

i wrote it because other books seemed to focus on personal experiences (boring, irrelevant) or doctrinal discussion of why i should convert to some other religion (boring, irrelevant and insulting).

anyway, it's an ebook, it's free, and it's out today..

new22day

Your audience might largely be ex JWs and non JWs too who want to help loved ones wake up or at least have better discussions. As a non JW, everytime I tried I was pulled down a rabbit hole and so confused.

That said, the FDS thing does confuse me. It's a really fundamental question - how do they "precisely" recieve God's word/direction or whatever. I think I could even ask a door knocker this one wihtout feeling too intimidated to fall down a rabbit hole.

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Free today - the book I wish I'd found when I was getting out of JWs.

by AngusOg in

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friends

it's called quitting jehovah's witnesses & other cults: how to do it & why you should, and i hope you'll check it out.

i wrote it because other books seemed to focus on personal experiences (boring, irrelevant) or doctrinal discussion of why i should convert to some other religion (boring, irrelevant and insulting).

anyway, it's an ebook, it's free, and it's out today..

new22day

Congratulations on your book! Your writing style is clear and concise, which is great. Just read a few pages so far about the fuzzy way JWs obtain the 'Truth' and I had to laugh - it seems like who the FDS is has already changed since the time you wrote this? Validates your point I think. Good book.

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DID JEHOVAH LIE ?

by Phizzy in

in view of this wt quote, and the july 15th 2013 wt:.

wt 09/15/2010.

" similarly today, a governing body composed of spirit-anointed christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation.

new22day

btw: I don't believe in Jehovah.

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DID JEHOVAH LIE ?

by Phizzy in

in view of this wt quote, and the july 15th 2013 wt:.

wt 09/15/2010.

" similarly today, a governing body composed of spirit-anointed christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation.

new22day

Jehovah did not lie. Jehovah has no clue what these people are talking about and shrugs a lot in confusion.