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  What R U Reading lately?

  by Tina in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm interested in finding out what everyone is reading these days.. or what books have had an impact on your worldview since leaving the org.. what have you found helpful in re-constructing and broadening the way you think and feel?.

  what have you found to be particularly enlightening on 'your journey?'.

  thanks in advance,luv to all.tina.

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  And I'm starting on a daily reading of the Bible from start to finish.
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  What R U Reading lately?

  by Tina in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm interested in finding out what everyone is reading these days.. or what books have had an impact on your worldview since leaving the org.. what have you found helpful in re-constructing and broadening the way you think and feel?.

  what have you found to be particularly enlightening on 'your journey?'.

  thanks in advance,luv to all.tina.

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  Books I've recently (or am now reading):

  The Professor and the Madman
  Gift of the Sea
  Tuesdays with Morrie
  The Dance of Anger
  Social Psychology (Unraveling the Mystery)
  Memoirs of Cleopatra
  7 Habits of Highly Effective People
  Imagining Robert
  Out of Africa
  Iman: the story of a Somali Girl
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  A Part of the World

  by comment in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  brothers and sisters, let's rise now and join in the singing of song number 24, "a part of the world.

  " it's loosely based on john 17:16.. a part of the world.

  although god once set us apart,.

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  troubled

  p.s.

  Seeker,
  This wasn't really directed to you, just an observation about the general negative tone that sometimes exists on this forum.

  And besides, I couldn't resist the urge to make up a little ditty of my own.
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  A Part of the World

  by comment in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  brothers and sisters, let's rise now and join in the singing of song number 24, "a part of the world.

  " it's loosely based on john 17:16.. a part of the world.

  although god once set us apart,.

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  troubled

  Sung to the Tune of Song 15:
  Life Without End at Last!

  Here I am
  Posting Again
  Knowing I'm an Outsider

  Still I stay here
  Throught taunt and jeer
  Searching through threads to find

  True info I can weigh
  Without the hate or plain hearsay
  No hasty slam
  Or verbal spam
  But an interchange of the mind

  Some were hurt
  treated like dirt
  So they pounce on each random Dub posting

  Trade bruises for sprains
  But neither gains
  Both stewing in our own brine

  Can't we try to keep our cool?
  Must we paint the other fool?
  We disagree
  Sometimes violently
  But where do we draw the line?
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  troubled

  Thank you, Seeker, for your thoughts. Yes, it is upsetting to me. And I'm just trying to get a handle on what exactly is going on. Something doesn't sound right. And unless I can get a good, logical explanation for what they've done, I might have to bring it to the elders and/or write to the Society or both in an attempt to figure it out.
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  Change in WTS doctrine under way!

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a "significant re-adjustment" in watchtower dicta is in the works.

  is it important?

  if you do want to know, then take the time to read the following information, for doctrine is the motivation behind everything that is "watchtower", and recent happenings within watchtower-world shed light on the future course of the great ship watchtower.. [hr].

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  bibleexaminer,

  So if I'm understanding correctly, the "new light" is that the UN is no longer the modern-day disgusting thing that causes desolation? Do you think that's how they'll explain that it's OK to be an NGO associated with them?

  Also, wouldn't that totally change the whole view of how the great tribulation is going to start???

  That seems like a MAJOR change in direction!
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  Hawkaw,

  I know you provided a contact number. I have it printed out. But I thought posters were concerned about the UN's DPI office getting a barrage of calls that would force them to turn away all requests. So they were going to somehow get organized about it. Also,I thought perhaps someone may have already obtained the info in question. But if not, OK. Just wanted to check.
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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  following the link given by kent,.

  i have several observation to make:.

  (from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

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  troubled

  Hi All,

  Well, I've nursed my wounds after being verbally battered by a few of you :) I guess I can live with a little anger and disagreement, in my search for information. I guess that's "life."

  Anyway, I noticed that in the newest Awake on Wife Battering, there is an article entitled "The Experiment Failed." In the article, it quotes from a financier who says the UN is constitutionally incapable of bringing about the goals outlined in the preamble to their charter.

  I have to agree that if the WTBTS applied to be an NGO with the UN, knowing full well that NGO status required them to support the ideals of the UN charter (and yet they continue to publish info saying the UN charter is a failure), that is doublespeak. This is definitely something I find "troubling" and am continuing to research into.

  However, a few questions are eating at me:

  I know the requirements to apply for NGO status are outlined on the UN's website, but it's unlikely the UN even had a website back in 1991. (If I'm wrong, correct me.)

  Assuming that the UN didn't have a website, can it be verified that the current requirements for NGO status listed on the UN's website (i.e., supporting the ideals of the UN charter, etc.) were stated or implied in the application package at the time Lloyd Barry applied for membership? I don't see anything to that effect in the current application form. Also, has the form changed in the last 10 years? What exactly was in the application package in 1991?

  I know these are side points, and the large picture is really whether or not the WTBTS should even be listed as an NGO. But in the intersts of getting our facts straight, I think it's important to have answers to these questions. To find out exactly WHAT the application package consisted of (and WHAT explicit requirements for NGO membership were agreed to) 10 years ago at the time Lloyd Barry applied for membership.

  Does anyone have the exact application package that would have been issued in 1991 and/or the 1991 application form filled out by the Society?
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  Counting Time... Is It Part Of The Rot?

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how many here have pioneered?.

  be honest, what was predominantly on your mind, telling people this wonderfull good news or was it counting time?.

  an elder once said to me, "you know, it's strange how when pioneers quit pioneering, they're hours don't stay the same, they don't gradually diminish and they don't even drop by half... they drop practically to nothing.".

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  troubled

  I would.