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  2020 Convention streamed

  by Rattigan350 in

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  2020 convention of jehovah’s witnesses.

  we warmly invite you to watch this year’s three-day convention presented by jehovah’s witnesses.

  as a result of the novel coronavirus (covid-19) pandemic, this year’s convention program is being presented online at jw.org.

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  fifth.column

  Hi guys

  we had the same information in France this week.

  for my group, for 6 weeks during summer, every Saturday at 2PM it will begin with the WT study and then the streaming of half day convention.

  So you are supposed to lose all you Saturday afternoons this summer. but... there is more!

  A mid week zoom meeting will be held in small groups to share « «interesting points» about the program! Of course this is NOT to be sure you watched the broadcast... Trapped!

  is it same arrangement where you live, or just my over zealous elders ?
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  8 Documents Arrived Today!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1.--authorization and release agreementfor disaster relief medical assistance.

  ------------------------------------------------------------------2.--for the attention of all elders------------------------------------------------------------------.

  3.--additional direction regarding assistance with practical needs------------------------------------------------------------------.

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  fifth.column

  Hi Petra,

  can you please add me for this link and future?

  thanks in advance

  Fifth
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  JW's revelling in their online statistic...

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. beliefs

  ...that their web site is the most translated in the world.. https://www.tomedes.com/translator-hub/most-translated-website.php.

  do jw's genuinely believe that statistics prove divine backing?

  you can fool some of the people some of the time...there are lies, damned lies, and statistics!.

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  fifth.column

  https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/012516/worlds-top-10-restaurant-companies-mcdsbux.asp

  With the same logic the best food of the world can be found at Mc Donald's :-)
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  Revised NWT in French released yesterday

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/revised-nwt-released-french/ .

  it looks like it may only be available electronically, that is, no printed version(?)..

  is the german next?.

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  fifth.column

  I attended a convention in France. We were all connected to Paris where David Splane made the announcement.

  Every attendant received a hard copy of the new Bible, just immediately delivered to our seat after the announcement. Except for people in the french islands or french-spoken coutries in Africa : they will have a more robust version because of their weather conditions, but the supplier was late.

  For the congregations who already had their convention last weeks, they will receive hard copies starting next week. BTW, the new word for congregation in France is now "Local assembly".
  
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  Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

  festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

  all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

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  fifth.column

  It was already the case in Paris last summer. We spent 25min in line to wait for the bag check.
  
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  France: Where all donations are going? Germany?

  by sp74bb in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.

  "nothing is hidden.

  jehovah's eyes sees everything.

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  fifth.column

  Be careful this doc is relative to ONE specific region (East) in France, and the numbers mentioned above are on a specific found for solidarity.

  Any way, since the change 4 years ago, nobody understands in France where the money goes today. When the guys gives the numbers from the platform we do not have a complete view of what is sent.
  

  But everybody is in agreement of a significant drop-off since...
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

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  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  Hello guys,

  Sorry I made no record.

  But as Losch spoke in French, I'm sure I understood correctly. My wifewho is still IN too, we had a long discussion in the car about it, she was very upset.

  And I can't lie, I was raised as a JW (just kidding!)

  I found a thread started 2 weeks ago on a French forum on this : http://www.forum-religion.org/watchtower/la-violence-psychologique-infligee-aux-enfants-t33372-30.html

  Even if you don't speak French, you will notice the sentence in red near the bottom of the page :

  Lettre d'une fillette de 10 ans Pionnière permanente depuis 4 ans, baptisée à 5 ans !

  => Letter of a 10 years girl, pioneer since 4 years, baptised at 5.
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  fifth.column

  Sorry, no record of it, we were not allowed to do that .

  At the very beginning of the event they said that we were encouraged to take notes, but we should'nt share, even with brothers & sisters. We could only summarize by our own words. Do you have something to hide?

  
  

  By the way, he gave his speech in French. Nice, but sometimes very hard to understand... and as he was reading his paper, he was very boring... (or maybe it is always the case ?!)
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  G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

  by fifth.column in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

  what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

  i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

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  fifth.column

  At the end of April, There was à zone visit in France, with TV broadcast in all KH.
  

  G. Losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years ! What a fine example, he said......

  let s imagine the faces of the parents in the KH! I was happy to see I was not the only one to find it crazy.

  if you have a child, you Know how mature he is at 5. How can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do???
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  fifth.column

  in France, we hadt he same instructions on not going to university. However, it seems that in most cong (depending of your BOE) these instructions were only counsels, not mandatory. 10 years ago, you had the choice to follow or not. 

  Today, I think it is a bit more complicated, we are pressured to follow more closely our American mother. Depending of your cong., if your father is an elder, if you want to avoid him some trouble while going to university, you have to pionneer every time you can. 

  Same for the beard.