The Associates in RN is also a good idea if you're stuck on nursing. My friend had a BA in Spanish. Went back to get an Associates in Nursing and got hired at a great hospital. She's working on her BSN now via online like mentioned above.
As a faceless internet person who has no stake though, I'm tellin ya, 50K (or whatever the difference is between RN and PA school) invested now for 20 years x a 30K yearly income difference (that's a low estimate not counting increased pay since 89K is the median, not the top) makes that initial investment a little bit silly to balk at. You'll literally make up the difference 20 times over, have more job satisfaction, and less stress.
And, if you don't want to be near the bottom level of a bureaucratic system and in a female dominated field, then don't go RN. Maybe Kneehighmia can give better insight, and I KNOW this is not PC, but a male nurse is putting himself at a disadvantage. You're surrounded by persons of the opposite gender and you have no tools to manage those very frustrating challenges. Anyone who thinks its not challenging to be a male in a female dominated sector is in denial. Just like it would be tough to be a girl on a construction crew or in the fire department. It just is. That's reality.
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Changing Careers: The difficult path to starting over.
by adjusted knowledge ini became employed with my current company after high school in 1995. i'm a manager and make decent income for the area i live ($65k).
it provides for the basic and some extra.
i have a wife and a daughter.
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Changing Careers: The difficult path to starting over.
by adjusted knowledge ini became employed with my current company after high school in 1995. i'm a manager and make decent income for the area i live ($65k).
it provides for the basic and some extra.
i have a wife and a daughter.
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Also, I really empathize with the nerve wracking idea of change. And you have a family! SHEESH.
You're an inspiration on how to live life. Life is short. Provide for yours, and pursue personal growth. Good on you for recognizing a need for change. I'm gonna do the same ASAP.
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Changing Careers: The difficult path to starting over.
by adjusted knowledge ini became employed with my current company after high school in 1995. i'm a manager and make decent income for the area i live ($65k).
it provides for the basic and some extra.
i have a wife and a daughter.
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Hi AK,
First of all, its very nice to see a "career" discussion. Considering that lost opportunities are one of the main scars of spending time on JWs, I'm bothered that networking and career rebuilding conversations are not more prominent.
Secondly, about me so you know where this is coming from: Born and raised JW, left at 29 years old, became a Paramedic/Firefighter, used that to get a AA, then AS in Emergency Medicine, and then on to a University as a double major in Economics & Sociology. Like you, I seek employment that fits my values of helping others.
Thirdly, about you. Woah, woah, woah. Why on earth would you go Nursing if you already have a Bachelors? That is basically throwing your Bachelors away and along with it about 30k of future potential income. It also puts you into a hospital culture that is difficult without the tools to rise above it.
If you really want to do the healthcare field (as opposed to Giordano's advice), go back and take 5 or so science courses such as Biology, Chemistry, (the pre-reqs that you'll have to take anyway to do RN) and then apply to Physician Assistant school. All you need is a generic bachelors and the pre-reqs mentioned (Again, that you HAVE to take anyway for RN, so it's not like RN lets you get around it).
It's usually a 24 month program, but it will A. put you in a much better position to deal with the social and political down-side of the healthcare system (which can be harsh) and B. make at least 50% more a year. Plus, a PA is REALLY what we grew up thinking a doctor was. A hands on fixer of people's bodies.
I personally explored both paths. Tons of my co-workers in the Fire Dept. are flocking to the RN field. But they don't have a bachelors. However I find myself weary of the healthcare system so I've elected to pursue something else as my next big change. -
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Walking Dead, evidently a hit show
by nonjwspouse innot my cup o tea for sure, but i found out my nephew is a regular zombie on the show.. anyone here like the show?
i'm kinda afraid to even watch it ...my imagination is a bit to active.. .
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I'm a fan. I just caught up with all of season 4 and really wanted to see the season 5 opener tonight.
Although at times it feels like a "man's" soap opera, just one never ending story of relationships, death and zombie killing with no real end ever to be found in sight, it can also have some interesting explorations in madness, family, survival, brotherhood and group dynamics.
I hear the actual comic that it's based on is really good.
It's not bad.
On the topic of TV shows, you should check out The Wire, Breaking Bad, and True Detective. By far the best tv ever put out so far.
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GB bitch-slap all apostates with TV.JW.ORG
by gopher123 inwith the launch of tv.jw.org, doesn't this mean that the apostates have won the battles, but finally lost the war?
ezekiel 38 states that in the time of the end, god's people would be prospering with "silver & gold.".
"kiss da rings" bitch!!!.
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Simon makes a really solid point.
This is a universe where an ISIL (or ISIS, or IS, whatever those Islamic extremists are calling themselves) can exist. An ISIL! They are literally cutting off the heads of aid workers and people are still flocking to join them. W-T-H, right?
"Crazy" will always be with us. We're here to offer a hand, a hope, a salvaging of those persons that are trying to do better by reality and face this world with courage. We are not agents of waste and theft of people's lives, we are helping people stand back up to reclaim themselves and contribute something to this beautiful world.
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Implications of Dropping "Types/Anti-Types"
by Antioch ini've seen this part of the agm folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.. .
the hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the tatt.
i searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that god was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular.
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Hi Joe,
Yes, this was taken from the AGM Highlights thread:
Speaker: David Splane
TYPES AND ANTI-TYPES
Type: representation of something that will happen in the future (tabernacle/copper serpent Jn 3:14,15)
Anti-type: the reality (the temple)
Why do our publications no longer refer to types? Who decides this?
Only if a type is referred to specifically in the bible then we refer to it. Scholars have tried to make types of bible accounts.
Our aim is to look for practical application. We Cannot go beyond what is written, Romans 15:4 "For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.
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Implications of Dropping "Types/Anti-Types"
by Antioch ini've seen this part of the agm folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.. .
the hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the tatt.
i searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that god was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular.
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I've seen this part of the AGM folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.
The hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the TATT. I searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that God was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular. Delving into Protestant and Catholic hermeneutics yielded heavy discussions on "second fulfillments" and "sensus plenior" concepts. But really I could find no foundation for believing that was how God was "writing" the Bible; that he "said" this but he REALLY meant that. It was hogwash and way over-complicated. And so, since the modern FDS groundwork was based on it, the religion crumbled in front of my eyes. I felt like I finally disrobed Franz and found out there was nothing under there. He was the Bernie Madoff of Biblical intellectualism and the grand experiment to apply rational thinking to the Bible was a big failure.
So. You better minds. With the fall of types/anti-types, what doctrines just lost their columns and fell down? It feels like Splane just casually wiped away a MAJOR piece of their doctrinal puzzle as if it was no big deal. Can the "gentile times" concept survive without typology? Can pinpointing a prophesied FDS group survive? What other JW proof texts just got demolished?What are the implications of this type/anti-type change?
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That's Steve Lett. One of the Governing Body. He's always been like that. And you're right, it's weird.
JWs in general have their own strange speaking style that I can pick up among seasoned speakers. It would be interesting to have a linguist dissect the incestuous speaking style among JWs. -
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New JW TV will be the best thing ever for apostates! Do you agree?
by Wasanelder Once inhere's my prediction; the gov body giving regular talks will come across as crazy ass idiots.
this will strengthen the opposition and give something to refer too that is concrete evidence of crazy town in the jw headquarters.
there will be screen captures and clips that will be used all the time on youtube accounts to show the ttatt.
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Proving or disproving the truth of a matter has become pointless. It's a brilliant post-internet move on the JW's part.
"Oh, we can't prove our Fred Franz era bullcrap since the advent of search engines and instant information? No problem, truth and rational conclusions no longer matters. It's all about family, being a good person, being part of a group, and just trusting us to blaze your way to salvation for you. Send money."
They are like an oiled pig.
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Omg, Outlaw, that pic is hilarious! What is the source picture? It doesn't ring a bell for a JW picture.
How awesome would it be to take one of the Revelation book pics of alleged "Kings" ruling with Jesus and superimpose their faces onto that. The absurdity of it all.