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  Final prayer after fieldservice today.

  by El_Guapo in

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  hi guys,.

  i was asked to give final prayer today after the field service meeting.

  i asked for jah to bless and comfort the families of the newtown, ct massacre.

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  You guys are 100% right.

  You can't argue biblical examples, especially from the mouth of Jesus. I just called another elder, one who I really like and asked him what was up? He said our prayers for field service should be about field service. He agreed that it shouldn't be a problem, but why "swing a stick at a hornet's nest?" He asked me if I was o.k: 1. you want to step down as an M.S. (see my story here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/243395/1/worn-out-ministerial-servant) 2.) you offer a prayer unlike anything you have ever said. I told him that I have been reading the bible (I bought the ESV on eBay - Love it) and have been trying to apply what I have been learning to a greater extent. I asked him what do you mean by "If I am okay" he asked if I had been talking to a new group of people or have gone online. etc. LOL
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  Final prayer after fieldservice today.

  by El_Guapo in

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  hi guys,.

  i was asked to give final prayer today after the field service meeting.

  i asked for jah to bless and comfort the families of the newtown, ct massacre.

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  Hi Guys,

  I was asked to give final prayer today after the field service meeting. I asked for Jah to bless and comfort the families of the Newtown, CT massacre. An elder pulled me aside after the meeting and said that asking for that was not appropriate. I mentioned Luke 6:27, and said that if Jesus said to love our enemies why not pray for innocent families????

  He said that JW's don't do that, we offer spiritual help to families, like studies, Return visits, etc.

  That being said, I made an excuse and didn't go out. (said I wasn't feeling well) Man, I am so angry why is that wrong?
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  The Early Morning Field Service Scam.

  by I quit! in

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  early yesterday morning i was driving through town on a street that rearly has any foot traffic and never at 7:30 am on a sunday morning and there they were.

  a group of jbubs milling about counting time.

  i drove a little further and there was a second group walking slowly down the street in the morning drizzle.

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  ^^^^LOL

  So true, I never thought of that. It's always a battle of likes for fieldservice pics or a pic of a pen, notepad and convention program.
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  worn out ministerial servant!

  by El_Guapo in

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  Yeah, I download the sheparding book. I knew what he was going to advise, before he did it. The elder I spoke with is a nice guy, but he ALWAYS complains about the work load. When I gone out to Field Service with him, he tells me that he can't wait for me to get appointed as elder so I can take over the school. (too much work) He has even told me about who might come back to the BORG (Df'ed peeps that are making strides) I know a couple elders care about me personally, but with the majority it's WORK, WORK, WORK.
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  worn out ministerial servant!

  by El_Guapo in

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  So I talked to an elder on Friday night. He refused to accept my resignation. He said that they will lighten my load, but he wouldn't "remove" me. I told him that under prayer my decision had been made, he said that a couple of elders will talk to me about it, but not to give up. I missed the meeting on Sunday, no phone call no text nothing. Not sure when they want to meet, but you guys called it. "He really wasn't having it, didn't want to accept my resignation" So we'll see how it goes. I'll keep you guys in the loop. I'm kinda nervous about meeting with the bros. when I get nervous I tend to "over explain things" LOL So this will be tough.
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  3/15/12 WT: Health Problems Causing You To Become Spiritually Weak? Then You Are Wicked.

  by yourmomma in

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  http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/e1/ws_e_20130315.pdf.

  check out the first study article in the march 15th study edition.

  it seems they are now stating that if you allow health problems to cause you to miss meetings or become inactive then you are wicked because you refuse to "get up" from being stumbled.

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  This is what has caused my to have doubts and fade.

  I went on a sheperding call with an elder (I'm an M.S.) and he asked the family how often they pray, what they say in prayer and if they have asked for help to make the meetings (They weren't too regular) The bro. said that his elderly mother is living with them and she requires 24 hour care, so they rotate and they don't the $ to hire a nurse. The elder said: "Have you asked for forgivness for missing the meetings? This is a requirement of all christians. Afterward, I talked to the elder in the car and asked: I thought sheperding calls were encouraging? He said yeah, we gave them the needed boost. I said how about we go back and tell them that Jah appreciates the help and mom they give to the eldery woman? Jesus made sure that his mother was cared for when he was passing away. The bro refused.
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  worn out ministerial servant!

  by El_Guapo in

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  El_Guapo

  Tonight's the night!.....

  Still debating on how to do this:

  1.) use my diabetes as an out and deal with whatever pushback.

  2.) Show infamous deaf JW youtube video to elder and say this guy is describing ME.

  3.) Or just stop answering my phone and door, etc... (I know this option willl bring the "hounds" quick)
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  Confidential Materials!

  by Atlantis in

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  all documents of important nature such as, our kingdom ministry, boe letters, forms, or other materials will now be sent only by email or private message communications.

  they will not be posted out here on the board.

  if someone else wants to post them, be my guest.. .. we have no other choice in this matter, and sending out confidential documents is better when it is done privately.

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  El_Guapo

  email recvd!
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  worn out ministerial servant!

  by El_Guapo in

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  El_Guapo

  ^^^LOL

  To be honest, I'm not angry at all. I always thought that people who had doubts or turned their back to the borg were angry or bitter. But to me it was lack of requirements for true Christians LOVE.

  Example: A couple years back, a young girl was having a sleep over party with pizza, ice cream, movies etc for other 10-12 yr old girls. My neice was invited. An elder asking me if my neice got the invite too (he had two young girls) I said yeah... (That's all my neice could talk about at the time) He said and I quote:

  Elder: Im not letting my girls go.

  Me: Why?

  Elder: Just, trust me I wouldn't let your neice go either.

  Me: Why, what's the matter?

  Elder: Nothing....

  Me:cool (of course I went home and was wondering why) - Next day I google the family father, mother, kids. Turns out the dad is a registered sex offender. I saw the dude's mug on the Megan's law site

  Me: Elder xxxx, why didn't you tell me? Do the other bros. know?

  Elder: No, and you can't say anything.

  Me: That's not fair, bros. in the know get to protect their kids, while the rest of the friends are in the dark?

  Elder: I didn't say anything, and you can't say anything either.

  I made the mistake and kept, my mouth shut. (My niece didn't go, my sister and her husband had to go out of town that weekend) So we dodged a bullet. But, I always asked myself: why not tell the friends??? That's not loving at all. Why expose children to this monster.
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  worn out ministerial servant!

  by El_Guapo in

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  El_Guapo

  I REALLY appreciate the advise, seriously. Regarding the 10 yrs of service and why I'm not an elder, I have been told I was too young. I was 20 when apointed and now just had my 30th birthday. I was drawing up my battleplan last night, when I get a call from a friend who is also an M.S. (older, though) he said that he messed up and will be anounced that he is no longer one of J.W.'s at tommorrow's meeting. He said "the BOE is going to really need you know, keep up the hard work!" LOL REALLY! He didn't state what happend but I know for a fact that his wife has been staying with her parents for about two weeks. Back to the point, I understand I have to "stick to my guns" now more than ever the elders will be pressuring me to NOT step down, but I have to stand my ground. I really like the "broken record" tactic using my ailement as an out.

  ***I know it's werid to say this but I've received more help on this board during the past couple days than the last 10 years as an M.S.***