El_Guapo

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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  Leolaia. I haven't read any of her posts lately. She could teach a course in Biblical history at any major University. I enjoyed reading all of her posts but the one about Jesus dying on Cross vs Stake was AMAZING!
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  Some Things Would-be Shunners Need To Think About

  by metatron in

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  so, you ( mr. or ms. hyperloyal witness) decide to succumb to cult peer pressure and shun me, your relative or friend.. need a ride to the airport?

  tough sh*t, pal.. does your car need a 'jump' at 7am?

  call triple a.. worried about dying alone?

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  You are dead on.

  Especially about the jump start.

  I was a target about 2 weeks ago, and my car wouldn't start. I swear to you I see a "brother"walking to his car, he sees me and make a quick left. I call out his name and ask for a jump. He keeps walking away and eventually heads back into the store.
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  Spreading TTATT using only NWT

  by El_Guapo in

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  2. friends

  hey guys quick update, my wife has also been inactive for many months.

  she has some serious doubts about the borg.

  any ideas on what we can talk about next?.

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  Thanks for the response.

  She never really understood how a goup of men in NY are brothers of Christ and they will (from heaven) "bring the Thunder" (as Kings) in a near future. To her Christ is the head and we are ALL underneath. The outside of the BORG friends has been tough for her too, but the fact that most of her friends has stopped looking for her since she left the meeting has worked in my favor.

  Slowly but surely, the scales are falling off.
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  Spreading TTATT using only NWT

  by El_Guapo in

  1. jw
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  hey guys quick update, my wife has also been inactive for many months.

  she has some serious doubts about the borg.

  any ideas on what we can talk about next?.

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  Hey guys quick update, my wife has also been inactive for many months. She has some serious doubts about the BORG. We've kept up with our bible reading and I've been trying to plant seeds of TTATT using the NWT. I don't want to risk busting out COC or one of Steve Hassan's books. (I got them mailed to my work address) We've talked out how to be a true follower of Christ one must be baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit (not the 2 questions that the BORG asks us) I've also talked about Stephen and how in his last words he said "Christ, receive my spirit" NOT Jehovah.

  Any ideas on what we can talk about next?

  Thanks in advance.
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  @problemaddict

  My parents are in San Diego, in the Spanish. I'm on the East Coast. My dad knows the elders here because when he has come to visit he has gone out to fieldserivce with a couple to get the scoop on my spiritual health along with my wife's. My dad has been an elder for many years, but he is a spy. I have to be very carefull what I say around him because he does stay in touch with our congregations elders.
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  So an elder dropped by work today. (out of the blue) He asked if I could take a break, we walked around the building. He said my Mom had called him and she was afraid that I was dabbing in apostasy. I said NO, I simply sent brought up Gonzalo Campos. He said who, I googled the story on my iphone , NEWS 10 official website. He read it, and said that it's a shame this happens. But, that I shouldn't mention this around the friends, I asked why? He said well for one, you haven't been to meetings in months, suddenly you bring THIS story up, it kinda looks "bad". I said but the magazines (WT/Awake) have no trouble point out the fact that child abuse exisits and is covered up by other churches,? Right? Well, he said if its not positive it best not to be said. We can stumble the friends with stories like this......

  That's when I said gotta go......

  Last thing he said was: "you gonna make it to meeting this weekend?"
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  you know, I'm not even worried about it.

  What makes me really sad is that my mom doesn't sympathise with the mothers of the victims. A normal "motherly" reaction would be disgust, anger, etc. at the monster. She didn't even flinch, her anger is directed toward me. She is truly a BORG zombie devoid of natural motherly emotions.
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  @BSD I've not gone to a meeting since Nov-Dec 2012. You guys are right, quick to point out faults in other religions but don't dare say anything about the BORG.
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  Mom & Dad (Uber Dubs) and convo about child abuse within the BORG

  by El_Guapo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i tt mom and dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up.

  of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups.

  i mentioned gonzalo campos, now mom and dad know this guy he went to their hall for several years in san diego.

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  So I TT Mom and Dad via skype last weekend (they live on the other part of the county) and the topic of abuse came up. Of course they went ahead and blasted catholics for their coverups. I mentioned Gonzalo Campos, now MOM and DAD know this guy he went to their hall for several years in San Diego. My mom got REALLY upset not with Gonzalo or the Borg, rather with me for bringing it up. She said that she would rather not know, and that me mentioning this case because I'm talking bad about the BORG. I said I only stated facts, and to think of the victims and thier families. she would't have it. Long story short, she called the elders in my hall and know they want to meet at the hall.
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  Team 10 obtains video of admitted child molester in Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.10news.com/news/investigations/team-10-obtains-video-of-admitted-child-molester-in-jehovahs-witnesses07222013.

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  I know Gonzalo Campos. My mother and father used to belong the hall in Pacific Beach, CA (San Diego neighborhood) when this loser was there. I stayed in San Diego for 8 months and actually went to field service with this guy. The cong. is called Playa Pacifica (Spanish) he was a loner type would go to meetings with an elderly couple. (not sure if they were his parents) He worked as a handy-man, and recall my father telling me that he left suddenly like from one day to the next and the brother he worked for was in the middle of a huge job. The poor brother was running around looking for a helper who had handy-man skills. When I saw this news article, I wanted to vomit. The guy fled to Mexico to avoid "problems" Imagine how the friends from the Playa Pacifica cong. feel now, especially those with kids.