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  Former L T Elder- Head Quarters & Great Tribulation

  by James Jackson in

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  the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.

  the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!

  then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!

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  gingerbread

  This is a typical emotional appeal from the Watchtower.

  At our hall - we phoned in - the speaker went on and on about his 'days in Bethel service' and what a wonderful privilege it was. And...if you don't have construction skills to assist the project, each publisher can support the project with funds.

  My brother said that at his hall an elder was standing in the lobby handing out the Temporary Service applications.

  The Watchtower uses the tent revival model to get what it needs from it's members....because it works.

  ginger
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  Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...

  by Legacy in

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  2. friends

  to all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.

  but their minds will be racing.

  i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.

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  Many that I know that have been jw's for decades are rather quiet about the 'new' understanding. The articles are convoluted and confusing to most. Some have express that it's been understood for years that the GB is really the F&DS....

  Plenty are as giddy as the people anticipating a new season of Downton Abbey. ( It's the final phase of NEW LIGHT before Armageddon!!! )

  ginger
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  Candace Conti case updated

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.

  the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .

  i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.

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  I just received an email notification from the California Appellate Court hearing the WT appeal of the Conti case:

  The case has been fully briefed.

  The case is on the conference list.

  The oral argument waiver notice has been sent.

  I'm not well versed in the process or these terms. Can anyone help clarify??

  ginger
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  Annual Meeting tie in program - Bans children from attending

  by Quarterback in

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  2. beliefs

  this was announced at our congrgation meeting.

  only, baptised, active witnesses are invited to attend this special program.

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  gingerbread

  The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society has always been about secrets and special privileges.

  Equality among members has never existed.

  And don't worry about finding out about the 'news' from this meeting. It'll be hitting the internet moments after the final prayer...

  ginger
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  Mass Disfellowshippings of Inactive Ones

  by bytheirworks in

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  2. beliefs

  the word out of bethel is of a mass purge the likes of the 1980's.. there's also possible public reproofs handed out for irregular ones.. .

  the scriptures they are using to support this:.

  the very ones keeping away from you will perish.

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  Well Steve - not to hijack the thread - in a sense you're correct. However, in my 40 + years of being involved in the Org., the 21st century JW's are changing. Radical changes are happening from my perspective.

  What happens in the next five years...nobody knows.

  Except that personal choice and conscience are being destroyed in favor of group think. Decades ago the old timers would stand up for their own personal freedom. I've seen plenty of older sisters tell an elder NO when he got to pushy. Elders would back down. Now the elder is under pressure to follow the directives from the branch - OBEY is being applied to them as much as it is to the publishers.

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  Special Local Needs talk this week

  by rosesinbloom in

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  2. bible

  it was announed at the sunday meeting 9/1/13 that all congregationswill be hearing the same local needs talk this week as sent by the wbts.. i would like to know if anyone has had their service meeting yet and what it was about..

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  jwfacts - I can see biblical parallels being drawn in the near future (in publications maybe but most obviously in talks) about leaving Brooklyn with Lot leaving Sodom, Moses leaving Egypt, 1st century Christians leaving Jerusalem...

  Perhaps a 'vital lesson' will be taught about this process to the faithful - the GB and 'Bethel family' have left their home of 100 years in order to pursue 'kingdom interests'. What a fine example for all publishers to follow!!

  I don't know of an underground shelter - but I do know that they'll have workout rooms, pool, tennis courts and walking/biking trails, picnic areas. The site includes a decent size lake as well.

  Swank!

  ginger
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  Mass Disfellowshippings of Inactive Ones

  by bytheirworks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the word out of bethel is of a mass purge the likes of the 1980's.. there's also possible public reproofs handed out for irregular ones.. .

  the scriptures they are using to support this:.

  the very ones keeping away from you will perish.

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  In the early 1980's, if an active, unbaptized publisher was involved in behavior that was a disfellowshipping offense they were 'disassociated'. The judicial action was announced and that person was completely shunned. This policy was short lived but many (particularly young adults) never returned.

  This original post may be rumor but don't consider it rubbish. This new Governing Body/Faithful & Discreet Slave will continue to change policies and manipulate scripture to fit their new objective - OBEY.

  ginger
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  Special Local Needs talk this week

  by rosesinbloom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it was announed at the sunday meeting 9/1/13 that all congregationswill be hearing the same local needs talk this week as sent by the wbts.. i would like to know if anyone has had their service meeting yet and what it was about..

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  Exactly my thought too BOC.

  Did you notice that they are asking for skilled, knowledgeble construction professionals. Maybe some of the other folks used in the recent past aren't jumping on this bandwagon.

  And - the branch isn't asking for a bunch of full-time jugheads to come up and assist as laborers....while counting their hours as field service time.

  Time is the motivating factor.....to get the Warwick project completed before they start getting eviction notices from the new owners of some prime Brooklyn property.

  ginger
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  10/5/13: COMING TO A KH NEAR YOU?!

  by grumblecakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey there everybody,.

  gota text froman elder in my cong a little while ago informing me of the "annual meeting meeting" to beheld at out hall on oct 5th....what live via satilite?

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  gingerbread

  That is correct.

  In the US at least, the program will be either broadcast live or replayed again that weekend at both Kingdom and Assembly halls. It's not open the public - but to active publishers. The live broadcast requires an invitation - preference is given to members with congregational responsiblility, full time pioneers and those who have been 'in' for many years.

  This is an organizational first.

  We were offered invitations/tickets in July.... but politely declined citing 'being out of town' during that weekend.

  ginger
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  Special Local Needs talk this week

  by rosesinbloom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it was announed at the sunday meeting 9/1/13 that all congregationswill be hearing the same local needs talk this week as sent by the wbts.. i would like to know if anyone has had their service meeting yet and what it was about..

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  It is a 15 minute talk from from the US branch.

  They compare the building of the new headquarters in Warwick, NY to the rebuilding of Jerusalem's wall as recorded in Nehemiah. The parallel is that the wall was rebuilt in 52 days by many volunteers. The GB wants the same to happen to their new home.

  It's an open plea for Witnesses who are experienced construction trades persons to come to Warwick for "ONE OR MORE YEARS".

  The work is 'speeding up' ....

  The 'historic' Watchtower buildings in Brooklyn have sold. It's time to 'flee to the mountains'.

  ginger