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  When Jehovah's Witnesses changed from Society to Religion and why

  by Terry in

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  gingerbread

  An interesting post Terry.

  I found the scan of Enemies by J.F. Rutherford on archive.org. In the chapter that you quote from, Rutherford's condemnation of religion primarily focuses on the Catholic church.

  He states "The Catholic Church organization in America holds title to property valued at more than two billion dollars." Their wealth is spread across the world in the amount of "many billions." Rutherford raises the question of where does that tremendous wealth come from...."from people who put themselves under the dominating control of that organization."

  This book was written during the darkest days of the 1930's depression. Perhaps the Watchtower leadership was coveting it's religious neighbors wealth?

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  RED ALERT FOR JULY 15TH STUDY on SUNDAY!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the very first paragraph, matthew 13:38 is to be read - "the field is the world; as for the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one..".

  jesus speaks of only two groups, so if you accept the wtbts "anointed" doctrine, then if you haven't got the "heavenly hope", then you've got no hope!.

  simply put, there aren't any 'other sheep' members of jesus' "one flock" mentioned, unless of course theyare also "sons of the kingdom", but of course, that would be ridiculous!!.

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  gingerbread

  The next step is that the WT will begin producing Memorial wine and unleavened bread.

  Each congregation will have the ceremonial package delivered just in time for the Memorial. A 'donation' will be transferred from the Congregation's bank account to the Branch.

  The WT has taken ownership of all the Kindom Halls and inevitably will be moving all assemblies and conventions to WT owned properties.

  It just makes good business sense...

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  Has anyone else observed how the elderly JWs are neglected?

  by Joepublisher1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.

  ) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?

  (what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.

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  gingerbread

  Good families take care of each other. Good people care for their neighbors.

  Within the WT organization, the meaning of 'family' is re-defined. A familial connection with the Org. and the congregation is greater than the natural connections between parents/siblings/children. In Watchtower doctrine, it is a matter of loyalty (insert 'to the Organization' here) to our dedication to Jehovah God.

  If a person becomes a Jehovah's Witness, he will gradually disconnect himself (physically and mentally) from his family and friends. As he grows old, he finds that his natural relationships with family members has weakened - sometimes destroyed. He now has no one else to turn to for aid - except from those in the congregation.

  That's not what I call enjoying ones 'golden years'...

  ginger
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  Has anyone else observed how the elderly JWs are neglected?

  by Joepublisher1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.

  ) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?

  (what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.

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  gingerbread

  The COBE of our previous congregation has a mother who is in her 90's. She is taken to the hall, grocery store, doctor and out in service.....by others in the hall.

  Many years ago, it was common for Witness families to bury their deceased relatives without a headstone or grave marker.

  Over the years, we've seen friends who were raised in the 'truth' by zealous parents begin to really enjoy life when the parent(s) grew old. With mom and dad unable to monitor their 'spiritual' lives, they play (as they themselves are now approacing retirement).

  It's the grandchildren of those zealous grandparents who are now choosing a non-JW life. They don't want to wait around (like their parents did) to grow as individuals and enjoy life.

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  For lurkers and newbies who think Jehovah`s Witnesses are better people than most

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why dont you look up on the internet crimes comitted by jehovah`s witnesses , i think you will be very surprised.the majority of cases are comitted by dedicated baptised witnesses , not newly interested ones that you can excuse away.and the crimes range from anything minor to outright murder .. and remember ,jehovahs witnesses are only a minority religion and yet crimes comitted by them far outstrip the national average.. i`m sorry i cant put up the links .i`d appreciate it if someone can .thanks heaps.. smiddy.

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  gingerbread

  Frazzled - you're wife's behavior and thinking patterns are typical of a Jehovah's Witness. We are molded over time to behave much like children and to be dependant on the organization. Eventually all decisions in life are based on the advice/admonition/rules given by the Watchtower.

  When she goes against the WT thought structure, she will experience cognitive dissonance.

  Upon reviewing my time as a Witness (from childhood) for 40+ years, I can honestly say that most of the stress, personal troubles, anger, distrust, disappointment, etc. came from persons at the Kingdom Hall.

  Fear of man is really fear of people (who mess with your life) in 'the Truth'.

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  Is JW.org down right now

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i can't get the home page on jw.org or any others on their domain to load currently.... could it be a dos attack by anonymous??.

  it just displays:.

  response error.. technical description:.

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  gingerbread

  Eric - clear the cache on your pc.

  history>clear recent history and clear cache

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  Candace Conti case updated

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.

  the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .

  i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.

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  gingerbread

  Thank you DNCall & Chaserious for your intellegent input!

  ginger
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  Candace Conti case updated

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.

  the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .

  i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.

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  gingerbread

  Vidiot - I don't know enough about the California appeals process and oral argument - so hopefully Chaserious or DNCall will respond to your question.

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  Candace Conti case updated

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just received an email notification from the california appellate court hearing the wt appeal of the conti case:.

  the case has been fully briefed.. the case is on the conference list.. the oral argument waiver notice has been sent.. .

  i'm not well versed in the process or these terms.

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  gingerbread

  I received another email from the Court:

  Attorney Richard Simons (for Candace Conti) has submitted a request for oral argument

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  Former L T Elder- Head Quarters & Great Tribulation

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.

  the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!

  then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!

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  gingerbread

  Clarity