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  The WT Society taking child abuse more seriously now?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. child-abuse

  with the constant reports of child sex abuse in the congregation from members who now will not be silent, i wonder if the wt will continue to change their policy in this matter.

  they have made some adjustments compared to a decade ago.. .

  i didn't even know about the case below.

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  gingerbread

  The WT takes child abuse more seriously when they get brought to court - and sued. Then the legal department gets real busy.

  For victims of child abuse the elders are instructed to be sympathetic toward the victim and direct her parents to WT publications for advice. Before this happens the victim is subjected to very detailed questions about the actual abuse (a judicial inquiry).

  Watchtower legal is always called first. The elders will follow their instructions - whether or not to call the police.

  The victim's life is damanged forever.

  Watchtower protects their $$$ first and their own reputation second. They pay out millions of dollars every year to pay victims off and have them agree to gag orders.
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  Possible announcement in October....

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pure speculation for several reasons.. "friends, it has been 100 momentous years since christ arrived as king.

  in the last 100 years a great shout of praise has gone up to jehovah.

  technology has greatly changed the way people live and communicate and jehovah has made sure that his organization is on the forefront of these changes.

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  How do you shut your mind down so you can get a good night sleep???

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the more i learn about jw's the harder it is.

  to sleep at night.

  the wife hit the pillow and within 5 min.. she is snoring.

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  gingerbread

  We usually go for a walk in the neighborhood after supper. I've stopped getting on the computer/internet in the evening to look at work emails or JW stuff. This helps my mind can rest before lights out.

  Insomnia can have multiple reason - anxiety, stress, depression. Eat light in the evenings. Get regular exercise.

  ginger
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  Possible announcement in October....

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pure speculation for several reasons.. "friends, it has been 100 momentous years since christ arrived as king.

  in the last 100 years a great shout of praise has gone up to jehovah.

  technology has greatly changed the way people live and communicate and jehovah has made sure that his organization is on the forefront of these changes.

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  gingerbread

  I agree.

  The core methods to maintain loyalty to the organization are still the same. The Watchtower/Jehovah's Witnesses will never change their position as millennialists. The culture produced by it's doctrine is firmly entrenched in an end of time belief system. ALL members are required to spread this message / warning.

  "Door-to-door work" may be phased out but the "preaching work" won't ever disappear. It's a mandate from God for Jehovah's Witnesses. It's the methods that will change.

  In the writing and talks of the Bible Students and Witnesses, it is clearly stated (or at least heavily implied) that God caused man to invent things to be used for the preaching work - telegraph, telephone, phonograph, cars, radio, magnetic tape, high speed printers, fax machines, computers....and now the internet.

  It's a bunch of delusional guys who have 7 million people at their "service".
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  Possible announcement in October....

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pure speculation for several reasons.. "friends, it has been 100 momentous years since christ arrived as king.

  in the last 100 years a great shout of praise has gone up to jehovah.

  technology has greatly changed the way people live and communicate and jehovah has made sure that his organization is on the forefront of these changes.

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  gingerbread

  This August's KM - Service Meeting part - has an demonstration on how to use an iPad or smartphone with a householder - to direct them to JW.org
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  Possible announcement in October....

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pure speculation for several reasons.. "friends, it has been 100 momentous years since christ arrived as king.

  in the last 100 years a great shout of praise has gone up to jehovah.

  technology has greatly changed the way people live and communicate and jehovah has made sure that his organization is on the forefront of these changes.

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  gingerbread

  V idiot

  The WT organization is making massive changes - to major doctrinal issues, internal structure, asset management and the methods to spread it's message. More changes have occurred in the past 20 years than in the 50 years previous. In the 21st century the WT organization became WAY more controlling of it's members.

  These conclusions are based on personal observation. I have a fifty year perspective (from a JW family four generations deep) as a very active Jehovah's Witness adult.

  Ask anyone on the street "what religion knocks on your door wanting to talk about the Bible?". What would the answer be?

  Ask anyone who has been a JW for five or six decades if it's the religion of their youth. What would their answer be?

  Remember - the governing body "loves this new idea!" It's now all about changes.

  ginger
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  How old were you when you left the Watchtower - SURVEY

  by usualusername in

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  2. friends

  i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .

  i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .

  uun.

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  gingerbread

  We were raised in. Both our parents began studing before we started kindergarden. We were both baptized as teenagers.

  We married the 'proper' way and raised kids in this thing. We've all pioneered, had responsibilities and are well known in the area. I began to research and fade in my early 40's. After slowly sharing my discoveries, we all - at different paces - went inactive.

  One heck of a journey.

  ginger
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  Being a JW Used to Be Fun :-)

  by snowbird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we found some people who were happy to welcome us into their homes, even offering us food and drink.. sometimes, they would flag us down and ask for the magazines, walk miles to the kh meetings, come to our defense if someone got ugly or rude.. now, jw's are either routinely ignored or outright vilified.. no one respects them anymore.. sad.. .

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  gingerbread

  When we are young or new in the 'truth' we see this religion through rose colored glasses.

  We thought we now really understood the Bible. It was explained to us so 'clearly'....and everyone in the congregation is great. We were part of a revolution - a new government that would right all the wrongs in the world. We were never going to die. We would see all our loved ones resurrected...soon.

  We had no clergy. We took no collections. Everyone in the organization was equal. We were one big happy family.

  The 'system' was ending - so there wasn't any need for the organization to build "storehouses" in this system. Funds were used to spread the good news of God's Kingdom. We were simple, kind, honest-hearted folk.

  How things have changed.

  ginger
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  Possible announcement in October....

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pure speculation for several reasons.. "friends, it has been 100 momentous years since christ arrived as king.

  in the last 100 years a great shout of praise has gone up to jehovah.

  technology has greatly changed the way people live and communicate and jehovah has made sure that his organization is on the forefront of these changes.

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  gingerbread

  As long as members think that they'll find interested ones in the territory, the door-to-door practice won't go away.

  The "field ministry" is the single identifiable characteristic that makes Jehovah's Witnesses unique. For the baptized JW, going out in service is a lifelong commitment. The form will change - this organization prides itself on change.

  What a better way to get individuals to stand up for their faith than by putting them next to a cart or table in a highly visible public area.

  If you don't have much money to give they want your time. People with limited incomes gladly trade hours and hours of service instead of 20.00 a month. If you have money, you just write a nice monthly check and you can skip service guilt free. And the elders won't give you any crap about low hours.

  ginger
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  Troll Accusations

  by Frazzled UBM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed that some of us are a bit too eager to label new posters as trolls.

  while it is clear that there are some posters who just like to stir up trouble or are out and out apologists there are others who are witnesses starting to have genuine doubts and so ask questions but then when they see the responses the cognitive dissonance kicks in and they push back and argue with what they are being told.

  this can lead to very negative reactions from jwn members and accusations that the person is a troll.

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  gingerbread

  What is awesome about JW.net is that anyone can join in the conversation.

  This isn't an exclusive "closed" group. I don't want to be part of a high control group anymore. So I say the more the merrier!

  Sharing experiences and opinions is the most productive way to understand the exit process.

  ginger