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Posts by 88JM
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Interesting quotes from the Feb 15th Watchtower (it's not a cult at all, honest!)...
by cedars inwell it's the 15th today, so i thought i'd check to see whether the feb 15th watchtower has been uploaded yet... and sure enough it has.. here is the link to the pdf.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.
i've breezed through it and noticed that it is littered with odd stuff that would scream "cult!
" to an outsider, but which your average indoctrinated jw will just lap up as always.. here is my pick of the quotes.... the first article, entitled "this is our spiritual heritage" gives a very flattering whistle-stop tour of the history of god's organization - from abraham to tynedale to rutherford (bypassing russell altogether) before explaining that nothing will ever thwart jehovah's purposes.
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BOE Letter: Kingdom News No. 38
by pixel into all bodies of elders re: kingdom news no.
dear brothers: .
april 1, 2013. we are pleased to inform you that in november 2013 a month-long special campaign will focus on a wide distribution of kingdom news no.
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88JM
Urrrgh - I hope I can fade before then
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Bible School for Single Brothers
by Eustace ini heard through the grapevine that those who graduated the bible school for single brothers around the end of february have already gotten their assignments.. i thought they were usually given assignments only after about a year?.
also while in the past not every graduate of the bible school for single brothers was given an assignment, in this class all were given one.. this smells like a bait and switch to me.. what's going on?.
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88JM
The new Bible School for Single Brothers (BSSB) is a bit "stricter" than MTS was.
The entry rules say you have to have been a regular pioneer for at least a year (maybe two) I think. Also, whereas with MTS you might have been sent back to your own congregation before if you were needed there, with the new school you get shipped out straight away as has been stated.
The last meeting for this in our circuit of ~700 people had an attendance of 2 brothers - it was a bizzare meeting with the DO who was so aloof it was very uncomfortable. The CO said that with the new rules, entry numbers had gone way down, but that this was also expected by them when they changed it.
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Logical Fallacies in WT Publications
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88JM
Just a reminder, for those who haven't seen the poster...
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Does anyone have a scanner and a 1992 Watchtower bound volume?
by cedars inif so, please email me at [email protected] - i need your help!.
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cedars.
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88JM
I could probably get hold of the bound volume by the end of the week. If anyone else can get it sooner then go for it...
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Must Read, Sticky Topics
by konceptual99 inhaving just found this gem with leolaia's superb post with 18 reasons the flood of noah's day is a myth..... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/222593/1/did-the-global-flood-of-the-bible-really-happen-please-give-evidence.
... i wondered what topics going back through the archives should be must reads for anyone coming to jwn?
what topics/posts should be made sticky (if that ever where to be a possibility)?.
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88JM
Please add some more - I'm sure there are plently of great threads!
I also found this series great - the story of Freddy "Brown Shoes" Franz:
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Must Read, Sticky Topics
by konceptual99 inhaving just found this gem with leolaia's superb post with 18 reasons the flood of noah's day is a myth..... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/222593/1/did-the-global-flood-of-the-bible-really-happen-please-give-evidence.
... i wondered what topics going back through the archives should be must reads for anyone coming to jwn?
what topics/posts should be made sticky (if that ever where to be a possibility)?.
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88JM
Here's quick list of some of my favourite threads:
607/1914
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/236562/1/Watchtower-Dishonesty
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/246169/1/Daniel-was-confused
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/32094/1/607-chronology-debunked
"Faithful and discreet slave"
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/242808/1/My-letter-to-the-elder
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/245366/1/THE-WALSH-TRIAL-FOR-NEW-MEMBERS
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/244294/1/What-happens-when-you-argue-with-JWs
"Generation" change
144,000
"Flip flops", changes and "old light"
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/248914/1/Porneia-in-marriage-a-changing-view
Bethel and Gilead Experiences
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/169263/1/What-Gilead-Taught-ME
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Governing Body Always Saying Obey Us Even If We Are Wrong,, Have They No Shame?
by frankiespeakin inhow do you feel about that arrogance?.
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88JM
I think the best quote for this is from the Olin Moyle trial:
" Unity at all costs " - Haydon C. Covington
Unity based upon an enforced acceptance of false prophecy.
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kingdom hall packed from memorial invitees!!!
by nowwhat? inafter spending a month in cold,rainy, snowy conditions, and using up 100's of gallons of fuel in service.
jehovah certainly blessed our efforts!!.
we must have had zero invitees up from zero the year before!!!
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88JM
Over half of the congregation here auxilliary pioneered, and they placed around 3500 memorial invitations. There was maybe only 1 person who came as a result of the invitations (even he might have heard about it by word of mouth) - other visitors were just a handful of bible studies who would have probably come anyway.
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Should Bethel Be Turned Into An Old Folks Home?
by frankiespeakin ineventually with out sourcing of printing being more efficiantly and cheaply done, and the decrease in demand for printed material, what should be done with all those career bethelites that are past the age of 65?.
maybe they should just turn bethel into an retirement home for thoses that gave their all to the corporation.. maybe keep a few of the more attractive young brothers to do remakes of their famous masturbation no no videos for the closet gays on the governing body?
to keep things from getting tideously dull and boring..
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88JM
Perhaps they could keep the GB as staff. I love the idea of Splane having to empty bedpans.