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  2013 June Our Kingdom Ministry!

  by Atlantis in

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  2013 june our kingdom ministry.send space.click the link by the blue arrow..http://www.sendspace.com/file/9u0ubm.file swap.click slow download.http://www.fileswap.com/dl/s3ya7frtwr/.file flyer.click the green download button.http://www.fileflyer.com/view/m33uubk...petra/vulcan

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  88JM

  Thanks Atlantis - nice to have you back. Hope you got all your computer problems sorted?
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  This weeks study article: God gave us these truths, yet we admit he hasn't actually given us the truth yet-- think about it

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt 2/13 page 3 paragraph 3--> "though religious error abounds worldwide, how thankful we are that god has given us spiritual light and truth!

  (read psalm 43:3,4.

  ) whereas the masses of mankind walk in darkness, we joyfully keep on walking in god-given spiritual light.

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  Only three times near the end in paragraphs 18 and 19 in fairly brief references.
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  Differences Between JWs in the US and Europe

  by BU2B in

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  2. friends

  there are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?

  i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.

  seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?

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  "The friends" is not a term used by JWs in the U.K. - I've only heard JWs in the USA use that one.
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  There is a Mole in Brooklyn

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading cedar's excellent article about the july 15, 2013 new-light" study edition of the watchtower got me thinking:.

  the control freaks in brooklyn known as the governing body (aka fds) must be having conniption fits knowing that there is a mole in bethel leaking information to apostates!

  "three weeks ahead of its expected release date in mid-april, a scanned copy of the july 15 2013 "study edition" of the watchtower was leaked to the office of jwsurvey by a conscientious active witness within the organization.".

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  They are farming out translation more and more these days outside of Bethel walls so these leaks are only going to become more commonplace.

  I'm not saying this leak is nescessarily from a translator, but they have to send the articles out to hundreds of people before they are printed, so leaks are inevitable really.
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  Interesting quotes from the Feb 15th Watchtower (it's not a cult at all, honest!)...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well it's the 15th today, so i thought i'd check to see whether the feb 15th watchtower has been uploaded yet... and sure enough it has.. here is the link to the pdf.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.

  i've breezed through it and noticed that it is littered with odd stuff that would scream "cult!

  " to an outsider, but which your average indoctrinated jw will just lap up as always.. here is my pick of the quotes.... the first article, entitled "this is our spiritual heritage" gives a very flattering whistle-stop tour of the history of god's organization - from abraham to tynedale to rutherford (bypassing russell altogether) before explaining that nothing will ever thwart jehovah's purposes.

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  Did anyone notice this crazy claim on page 6, paragraph 13:

  "People have known God's name since the creation of mankind. Adam and Eve were aware of it, and they knew exactly how to pronounce it."

  How can they make that statement? Needless to say it is not backed up in any way.

  They actually dig themselves deeper by saying: "Jehovah God has seen to it that his name is preserved in his word." Of course they neglect to mention that he only bothered to preserve barely 4 letters of it.

  The article tries to give examples of Jehovah himself directly preserving his "word" and his "name", including the Moabite stone - thereby implying that Jehovah was using the king of an enemy nation writing to praise his false God to preserve the name "Jehovah".

  They rave about "attacks on the bible", but neglect to mention that the whole list of books to be included or not was compiled by what they would see as "Babylon the Great".

  I also love how they rave about having a "spiritual heritage", but in their chosen definition on page 3, this includes: "...all the qualities, traditions, or features of life...".

  This reminds me of a certain scripture about traditions. They also talk again about "Christian traditions" in paragraph 6. Urrgh...
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  Interesting quotes from the Feb 15th Watchtower (it's not a cult at all, honest!)...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well it's the 15th today, so i thought i'd check to see whether the feb 15th watchtower has been uploaded yet... and sure enough it has.. here is the link to the pdf.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.

  i've breezed through it and noticed that it is littered with odd stuff that would scream "cult!

  " to an outsider, but which your average indoctrinated jw will just lap up as always.. here is my pick of the quotes.... the first article, entitled "this is our spiritual heritage" gives a very flattering whistle-stop tour of the history of god's organization - from abraham to tynedale to rutherford (bypassing russell altogether) before explaining that nothing will ever thwart jehovah's purposes.

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  Bumping for Sunday's study
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  BOE Letter: Kingdom News No. 38

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to all bodies of elders re: kingdom news no.

  dear brothers: .

  april 1, 2013. we are pleased to inform you that in november 2013 a month-long special campaign will focus on a wide distribution of kingdom news no.

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  Urrrgh - I hope I can fade before then
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  Bible School for Single Brothers

  by Eustace in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard through the grapevine that those who graduated the bible school for single brothers around the end of february have already gotten their assignments.. i thought they were usually given assignments only after about a year?.

  also while in the past not every graduate of the bible school for single brothers was given an assignment, in this class all were given one.. this smells like a bait and switch to me.. what's going on?.

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  The new Bible School for Single Brothers (BSSB) is a bit "stricter" than MTS was.

  The entry rules say you have to have been a regular pioneer for at least a year (maybe two) I think. Also, whereas with MTS you might have been sent back to your own congregation before if you were needed there, with the new school you get shipped out straight away as has been stated.

  The last meeting for this in our circuit of ~700 people had an attendance of 2 brothers - it was a bizzare meeting with the DO who was so aloof it was very uncomfortable. The CO said that with the new rules, entry numbers had gone way down, but that this was also expected by them when they changed it.
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  Logical Fallacies in WT Publications

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  88JM

  Just a reminder, for those who haven't seen the poster...

  

  From: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/poster
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  Does anyone have a scanner and a 1992 Watchtower bound volume?

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if so, please email me at [email protected] - i need your help!.

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  I could probably get hold of the bound volume by the end of the week. If anyone else can get it sooner then go for it...