Jon Preston - They even read Romans 8:16,17 to try separate out the "anointed" but conveniently omit the preceeding verse 14:
"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God"
Posts by 88JM
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12How isnt anyone connecting the dots?!?! Ugh memorial.
by Jon Preston intonight the talk was given and he speaker talks about the two hopes, i roll my eyes.
then he talks about how the evening meal is onky for the elite 144,000. i think to myself "why the hell does paul say in 1 corinthians 11 when hes referring tothe entire corinthians congregation (right?
) that they should do it in remembernce of christ?
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Gay MS??
by andysmiles inabout me, i am being raised in a jw family.
all of my family expect for one aunt, who had left but not disfellowedshiped thankly, are in jw.
my father is an elder and so is my grandfather.
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88JM
^ This
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Is this new donation arrangement for real?
by nugget injust read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.
congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.
congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.
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New NWT - what's the REAL reason?
by wallsofjericho inone thing i have learned over the years is there is a clear, distinct purpose to everything the wts does.
everything is done to accomplish a defined purpose.. did they really print millions of new bibles just to be more accurate?
after decades of toughting how much better the nwt was than any other bible?.
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88JM
Yeah I have to agree it was almost certainly was for $$$
Here it was also just before the special assembly day - elders were still handing them out to congregation members who hadn't been to the AGM meeting the previous weekend. The donations at the Special Assembly Day must have been the highest I've ever seen.
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What JW beliefs did you used to hate trying to defend?
by DuvanMuvan inas one of the jw "young ones" i was always expected to witness to my friends at school if i wanted to make god's heart glad or whatever but i didn't.
the closest i ever got was just explaining why we didn't celebrate christmasetc.
even then i was just reciting things i read in publications.. one topic i always tried to avoid talking about was birthdays.
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88JM
I always had trouble defending the need for an organized religion - I never really felt Hebrews 10:24, 25 was enough to justify a huge corporate structure like the JW's. I met very well-read people in the ministry who were happy being free to believe what they wanted, and didn't see the need for a religion to tell them what to believe. I just couldn't argue with that, and never felt it was my place to be the master of someone elses faith.
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Ireland Bethel up for sale
by Mattieu inhttp://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.
whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.
does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.
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88JM
The old Bethel in Ireland is being used for the Bible School For Christian Couples for the UK - a couple from the congregation here just went through it there.
It doesn't sound impossible that they sold it and are now renting it back, but quite surprising.
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Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!
by stuckinarut2 ini'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).
how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.
the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!
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88JM
I hope the microphone handler wasn't peeking too close at me reading JWN!
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Cong issues
by Batman89 inits seemed like in my old hall(im still in just leared tthatt) evey other local needs part we had was about either gossip or needing more effort in the ministry.
also about brothers needing to step up and "reach out".. were/are there alot of gossip,lack of ministry support or lack of brothers in your hall when you were a jw?.
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88JM
Local needs part here was about hospitality, even though there is a part on it next week as well anyway.
Guess what? The C.O. visit is coming up here and they are looking for somewhere to stay...
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Scary College Graph (or Why JWs Are Freakin' Broke)
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/unemployment-and-salary-graduates-and-non-graduates-2014-4.
the contrast is quite dramatic.
otoh, you have all that student debt to pay off.. .
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88JM
I was discussing with a JW about a couple in the congregation here who are really struggling financially at the moment. They're a young-ish couple in their late 30's, basic education, self emplyed, on less than minimum wage, and their car which they took a loan out to buy less than a year ago had just failed it's M.O.T. test so they can't get to meetings at the moment, even if they could afford the fuel. I seriously doubt they have any kind of retirement plan at all, and their remaining aged parents are getting on as well. The JW lifestyle is certainly coming back to bite for some I have no doubt.
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Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!
by stuckinarut2 ini'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).
how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.
the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!
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88JM
In the past these types of articles would at least try to throw you some statistics (albeit mis-quoted or cherry picked) to attempt to prove their point from some sort of emperical perspecive.
I find this article particularly horrible because there is now not even any attempt to prove things empirically - hardly any statistics - it's all subjective arguments and appeal to emotion, or insulting you if you don't agree with it (para. 10): "Can anyone reasonably deny that things have got much worse?"
One comment from a sister in the first paragraph about blindness at the hall here mentioned: "people in the world being blinkered, like horses, to things getting worse around them". Surely with articles like this there can be no-one more blinkered than JW's! They even admit to it in the last paragraph, for JW's "not be distracted by the noise from Satan’s world".
Just to top it off, I was thinking how this article is like the most unsavoury parts of the Daily Mail newspaper here in the UK, and then lo and behold the brother reading the WT whips out a clipping from - you guessed it - The Daily Mail, and then reads it out from the platform!