Poztate - I think this is still the outline:
I did see a scanned copy floating around somewhere on here, but the link above does have the correct text.
Posts by 88JM
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Memorial talk fact checking - a story
by 88JM inthis was in the memorial talk here last night, used as an illustration i guess.. i think there is some direction to use an experience like this in the outline, but the story that the speaker told (presented as fact) sounds totally bogus to me, or at best urban legend.. does anyone know if this is actually true?
here is the story the speaker told:.
"some years ago there was a tragic train accident in england, and sadly some lost their lives.
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88JM
This was in the memorial talk here last night, used as an illustration I guess.
I think there is some direction to use an experience like this in the outline, but the story that the speaker told (presented as fact) sounds totally bogus to me, or at best urban legend.
Does anyone know if this is actually true? Here is the story the speaker told:
"Some years ago there was a tragic train accident in England, and sadly some lost their lives. In one of the carriages that was wrecked were about 14 or 15 passengers and safety depended on the gap that was between them and some land. What one of the passengers did was strech himself out as far as he possibly could and his legs were left in the carriage, and he encouraged the passengers to cross over him to safety. And as one, two, three crossed over... they all got to the other side and survived because that man used his body as a human bridge. But sadly in this event, this man lost his life."
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How isnt anyone connecting the dots?!?! Ugh memorial.
by Jon Preston intonight the talk was given and he speaker talks about the two hopes, i roll my eyes.
then he talks about how the evening meal is onky for the elite 144,000. i think to myself "why the hell does paul say in 1 corinthians 11 when hes referring tothe entire corinthians congregation (right?
) that they should do it in remembernce of christ?
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Jon Preston - They even read Romans 8:16,17 to try separate out the "anointed" but conveniently omit the preceeding verse 14:
"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God"
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Gay MS??
by andysmiles inabout me, i am being raised in a jw family.
all of my family expect for one aunt, who had left but not disfellowedshiped thankly, are in jw.
my father is an elder and so is my grandfather.
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^ This
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Is this new donation arrangement for real?
by nugget injust read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.
congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.
congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.
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New NWT - what's the REAL reason?
by wallsofjericho inone thing i have learned over the years is there is a clear, distinct purpose to everything the wts does.
everything is done to accomplish a defined purpose.. did they really print millions of new bibles just to be more accurate?
after decades of toughting how much better the nwt was than any other bible?.
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88JM
Yeah I have to agree it was almost certainly was for $$$
Here it was also just before the special assembly day - elders were still handing them out to congregation members who hadn't been to the AGM meeting the previous weekend. The donations at the Special Assembly Day must have been the highest I've ever seen.
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What JW beliefs did you used to hate trying to defend?
by DuvanMuvan inas one of the jw "young ones" i was always expected to witness to my friends at school if i wanted to make god's heart glad or whatever but i didn't.
the closest i ever got was just explaining why we didn't celebrate christmasetc.
even then i was just reciting things i read in publications.. one topic i always tried to avoid talking about was birthdays.
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I always had trouble defending the need for an organized religion - I never really felt Hebrews 10:24, 25 was enough to justify a huge corporate structure like the JW's. I met very well-read people in the ministry who were happy being free to believe what they wanted, and didn't see the need for a religion to tell them what to believe. I just couldn't argue with that, and never felt it was my place to be the master of someone elses faith.
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Ireland Bethel up for sale
by Mattieu inhttp://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.
whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.
does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.
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88JM
The old Bethel in Ireland is being used for the Bible School For Christian Couples for the UK - a couple from the congregation here just went through it there.
It doesn't sound impossible that they sold it and are now renting it back, but quite surprising.
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Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!
by stuckinarut2 ini'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).
how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.
the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!
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I hope the microphone handler wasn't peeking too close at me reading JWN!
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Cong issues
by Batman89 inits seemed like in my old hall(im still in just leared tthatt) evey other local needs part we had was about either gossip or needing more effort in the ministry.
also about brothers needing to step up and "reach out".. were/are there alot of gossip,lack of ministry support or lack of brothers in your hall when you were a jw?.
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88JM
Local needs part here was about hospitality, even though there is a part on it next week as well anyway.
Guess what? The C.O. visit is coming up here and they are looking for somewhere to stay...