Posts by 88JM

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OMG!! Andre from the YPA video gave our Memorial talk.. My thoughts:

by BU2B in

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our memorial was held at a music hall with roughly 1300-1400 in attendance.

there was a guest speaker from bethell, guess who??

andre!

88JM

" Thank goodness no jw.org stuff at our Memorial. "

Are you sure? It was in the letter that gets read out at the end? Did your elders just forget it or something?

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Was Mark the template for the other gospel accounts?

by awakening in

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i was checking out why the watchtower study was using the book of matthew regarding the last days during the meeting.

i read somewhere, and please correct me if i am wrong, that mark was written in advance of the other accounts.. i thought the differences were startling.

mark makes no mention of "as in the days of noah".

88JM

While I don't always endorse Wikipedia, they do have some pretty good articles on this kind of stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markan_priority

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

Any gay exJW's?

by Trapped in JW land in

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was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?

and also, how did you end up leaving?.

88JM

There are a few LGBT ex-JW groups on Facebook too if you're looking for folks to chat to. There's worldwide and also regional groups, depending on where you live, sometimes with meetups.

If you're worried about being found out on Facebook though, you might want to use another login, though most of the groups are now closed groups so any posting is private within the groups, but worth checking first.

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Did You Go To The Memorial?

by minimus in

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i didn't and i don't care about it..

88JM

Poztate - I think this is still the outline:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222257/1/Does-anyone-have-the-2012-Memorial-Talk-outline

I did see a scanned copy floating around somewhere on here, but the link above does have the correct text.

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Memorial talk fact checking - a story

by 88JM in

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this was in the memorial talk here last night, used as an illustration i guess.. i think there is some direction to use an experience like this in the outline, but the story that the speaker told (presented as fact) sounds totally bogus to me, or at best urban legend.. does anyone know if this is actually true?

here is the story the speaker told:.

"some years ago there was a tragic train accident in england, and sadly some lost their lives.

88JM

This was in the memorial talk here last night, used as an illustration I guess.

I think there is some direction to use an experience like this in the outline, but the story that the speaker told (presented as fact) sounds totally bogus to me, or at best urban legend.

Does anyone know if this is actually true? Here is the story the speaker told:

"Some years ago there was a tragic train accident in England, and sadly some lost their lives. In one of the carriages that was wrecked were about 14 or 15 passengers and safety depended on the gap that was between them and some land. What one of the passengers did was strech himself out as far as he possibly could and his legs were left in the carriage, and he encouraged the passengers to cross over him to safety. And as one, two, three crossed over... they all got to the other side and survived because that man used his body as a human bridge. But sadly in this event, this man lost his life."

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How isnt anyone connecting the dots?!?! Ugh memorial.

by Jon Preston in

tonight the talk was given and he speaker talks about the two hopes, i roll my eyes.

then he talks about how the evening meal is onky for the elite 144,000. i think to myself "why the hell does paul say in 1 corinthians 11 when hes referring tothe entire corinthians congregation (right?

) that they should do it in remembernce of christ?

88JM

Jon Preston - They even read Romans 8:16,17 to try separate out the "anointed" but conveniently omit the preceeding verse 14:

"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God"

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Gay MS??

by andysmiles in

about me, i am being raised in a jw family.

all of my family expect for one aunt, who had left but not disfellowedshiped thankly, are in jw.

my father is an elder and so is my grandfather.

88JM

^ This

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Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

88JM

Seems like this would pretty much be tithing, by any other name.

Why don't they just cut to the chase and merge with the Mormons now?

EDIT: Whoops - sorry I just saw Comatose already had the same idea!

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New NWT - what's the REAL reason?

by wallsofjericho in

one thing i have learned over the years is there is a clear, distinct purpose to everything the wts does.

everything is done to accomplish a defined purpose.. did they really print millions of new bibles just to be more accurate?

after decades of toughting how much better the nwt was than any other bible?.

88JM

Yeah I have to agree it was almost certainly was for $$$

Here it was also just before the special assembly day - elders were still handing them out to congregation members who hadn't been to the AGM meeting the previous weekend. The donations at the Special Assembly Day must have been the highest I've ever seen.

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What JW beliefs did you used to hate trying to defend?

by DuvanMuvan in

as one of the jw "young ones" i was always expected to witness to my friends at school if i wanted to make god's heart glad or whatever but i didn't.

the closest i ever got was just explaining why we didn't celebrate christmasetc.

even then i was just reciting things i read in publications.. one topic i always tried to avoid talking about was birthdays.

88JM

I always had trouble defending the need for an organized religion - I never really felt Hebrews 10:24, 25 was enough to justify a huge corporate structure like the JW's. I met very well-read people in the ministry who were happy being free to believe what they wanted, and didn't see the need for a religion to tell them what to believe. I just couldn't argue with that, and never felt it was my place to be the master of someone elses faith.