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  Implications of Dropping "Types/Anti-Types"

  by Antioch in

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  i've seen this part of the agm folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.. .

  the hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the tatt.

  i searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that god was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular.

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  The antitypical "Laodicean Messenger" is probably turning in his (other) grave

  
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  Latchman may be only a "beard"

  Ha! The irony...
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  Edit: You probably have it spot on, AnnOMaly

  If it's this company it says they specialise in dark fibre (yes, where do I begin with the jokes), which means basically means stuff not connected to the internet, or at the very most run through secure tunnel VPN's.

  Most likely I would say is that it's for construction purposes and communications inside or between branch offices. A little strange that they would go so far as purchasing a whole company, but I can see how it could be justified.

  However, it is a very definite signal of moving towards even more I.T. based projects in the future - fibre is very expensive, and you would only need your own fibre company if you were transferring massive amounts of information very frequently (i.e. video productions and streaming). The fact that it's dark fibre means it's secure communications within that network, at least.

  Thinking about it, my suspicion would be that this means we will be seeing much more video and streaming from the JWs in the future.
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  Powerful photo

  by zakharijah in

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  hi,.

  i just stumbled upon this photo on facebook (pic by david j. m. coleman), and as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.... .

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  I'm pretty sure that's a Royal Mail van in the background, so it must be in the UK somewhere.

  It's definitely Scotland, and the Facebook page it's taken from is a clergyman in Greenock (west of Glasgow), but another poster said they thought the brother might be from Stevenson congregation though. Either way, it's still definitely Scotland.

  And the guy on the right isn't wearing a "hoodie", it's just a windbreaker style jacket - highly nescessary in cold Scotland!

  I actually did not think it was a beggar but another coffee drinker taking it easy, having a rest.

  I'm pretty sure that's not the case - he's almost sat cross-legged on a bit of something to give him comfort, and in a major pedestrian throughfare where he will get noticed. If it's a town center or a town square, there will almost certainly be much comfier places nearby to sit than there, but wouldn't get you noticed.
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  Eating disorders - advice about someone

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i'm sure there are probably a few posters on here that have had experience themselves or had family members with eating disorders.

  i'm posting here not for myself, but out of concern for someone else.. there is a teenage (about 16, recently baptized) brother who quite obviously has an eating disorder.

  i have personally been at a few gatherings and seen him refuse all food while everyone else was eating, with the excuse that "he wasn't hungry", so i can say it's definitely an eating disorder and not some allergy or just a one-off.. i'm also not the only one who has noticed it - i've been in discussions with a few brothers and sisters who have also remarked on his conditon, but don't seem to know any more about it than i do.

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  Confronting the situation head on is the answer.

  Thanks - that's a helpfully clear answer.

  Drawing closer to the family beofre you confront them is the best course of action

  Also good advice - thanks. It's difficult when you're trying to do a fade, but are concerned for others at the same time.

  People who have eating disorders have issues with control.

  I've also heard that said by someone in the congregation, so it's reassuring to hear it from someone else.

  I have very little doubt that he definitely has a serious problem. I will probably ask his parents as suggested, though I'm not sure what their reaction will be. I will be shocked if they flat-out deny he has any problem at all. Hopefully they will be aware of it and thankful for the concern.
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  Eating disorders - advice about someone

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i'm sure there are probably a few posters on here that have had experience themselves or had family members with eating disorders.

  i'm posting here not for myself, but out of concern for someone else.. there is a teenage (about 16, recently baptized) brother who quite obviously has an eating disorder.

  i have personally been at a few gatherings and seen him refuse all food while everyone else was eating, with the excuse that "he wasn't hungry", so i can say it's definitely an eating disorder and not some allergy or just a one-off.. i'm also not the only one who has noticed it - i've been in discussions with a few brothers and sisters who have also remarked on his conditon, but don't seem to know any more about it than i do.

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  I'm sure there are probably a few posters on here that have had experience themselves or had family members with eating disorders. I'm posting here not for myself, but out of concern for someone else.

  There is a teenage (about 16, recently baptized) brother who quite obviously has an eating disorder. I have personally been at a few gatherings and seen him refuse all food while everyone else was eating, with the excuse that "he wasn't hungry", so I can say it's definitely an eating disorder and not some allergy or just a one-off.

  I'm also not the only one who has noticed it - I've been in discussions with a few brothers and sisters who have also remarked on his conditon, but don't seem to know any more about it than I do. I've only ever come across one other person in the congregation quite a while ago with a similar problem, but is no longer in the congregation.

  I've not confronted the brother or his family about his condition, and I don't know if anyone else has either - it's a bit of an "elephant in the room situation", but as you know that sort of thing goes on all the time in the JWs. I've seen dramatic weight loss in the young guy ever since his family moved into the congregation a couple of years ago. Just as a side note, both him and his younger brother are home-schooled.

  I realise that such disorders are not simply about someone convincing themselves that they're not hungry, and neither is it always about body image, but usually there are much deeper underlying issues behind it.

  My question is: what would be your advice be to someone like me looking on at the situation? It's very difficult to watch someone dangerously lose so much weight while standing by doing nothing. Obviously I'm in no position to be giving medical advice. I do worry that his parents aren't perhaps getting him the medical help he should have, maybe not seeing the seriousness of things being so close to the situation. There's also the possibility that problems at home are actually the cause of the condition, of course.

  So what do I do? Continue to say nothing? Confront his parents about it? Confront the young brother about it? I'm not sure...
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  No more literature counters?

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. beliefs

  there is a thread on jwtalk suggesting that the latest hall designs do not feature a literature desk.

  the dubs will pick up gear from a self serve kiosk in the hall, just enough for their immediate needs.. time will tell if this is true but if so then it relfects the reducing emphasis on printed material.

  also, i think there is another by product.

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  That would make sense as that's essentially all the "literature desk" is nowadays, except for the occasional book or bible handed out (usually because someone has lost theirs!)
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  WatchTower selling printing Press on alibaba.com

  by TruthHub in

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  2. scandals

  a mr. noel steensen (google him) selling bethels printing press in new york on alibaba in china... what about that?:.

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  http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/man-roland-lithoman-iii-printing-press_107050287.html.

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  88JM - "...which actually might indicate a desire to increase production..."

  With the current massive push for JW.org, there's no way they're going to increase printing production.

  I agree, but if they're not replacing it, that would leave the only other reason to generate some cash, and from other threads on here, people seem to be thinking they aren't in that position yet?
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  WatchTower selling printing Press on alibaba.com

  by TruthHub in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a mr. noel steensen (google him) selling bethels printing press in new york on alibaba in china... what about that?:.

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  http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/man-roland-lithoman-iii-printing-press_107050287.html.

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  Yeah it didn't work for me when I clicked, but if you copy+paste it, then it worked:

  http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/MAN-ROLAND-LITHOMAN-III-printing-press_107050287.html
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  Saturday morning field service is a joke

  by hoser in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i havent been going door to door saturday mornings for since i can't remember when.

  i have been putting in regular reports to the congregation but the last time i actually went on a door was probably six months ago or so and it has been at least 2 years since i did a saturday morning.

  9:30 we showed up to the group arrangement, we waited outside because we were not sure that it was the right place.

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  It's even more rediculous when a few of those are going off to do cart witnessing. In the congregation here, they're running the cart in a shift system, so half-way through the morning, another couple that has been out D2D has to come drive to the town center (maybe a 30 min drive) to take over, so the couple who were on first can then drive out to the territory (another 30 mins) and start D2D! It's like the most inefficient system they could have thought of - so much time wasted! (I know it's all a waste really but...)