how would you handle a situation where your grandkids are being used by their father to manipulate their grandmother into going to the meeings?
grandkids sending text messages to grandmothers phone asking if she will come to their meeting.
grandmother is no longer attending meetings and doesn't wants to she know ttatt.
Sorry this is happening.
Nugget's second paragraph is spot on. Play your "role" and don't push.
Grandparents have no legal rights in the US to see the grandchildren, so you have to make it work with the parents. Technically, they can cut you off for any reason, and there's nothing you can do.
HBH
i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
Agreed, I think that's part of the hook, along with love bombing. Chances are good that many have been directly impacted at some point in life, by some sort of "immorral" act.
The days of Noah thing is real twisted, Jesus said things would be 'normal' and they "took no note"
The issue of collapse is another story. Many experts (as well as JW's) have been saying collapse is comming for at least the past 50 years. Technically, they are correct. The (mainly monetary) "system" calls for ETERNAL growth, and we live on a finite planet.
HBH
i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
Steve2, I agree, but facts are facts. What I'm saying is the quantity.
There have never been this many people on the planet, and there have never been this many people suffering.
HBH
i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
The question is a little broad.
In the US, the standard of living is very good. But it would take 4 earths for all to live the way we do. Also, in the
US, suicide is the leading cause of death for people between the ages of 10 to 50. Also, the factory farming of animals is hidden, as it contains incredable cruelity. It was not like that 50-75 years ago.
There is also the Malthusian point of view, where the sheer numbers of those suffering are increasing. According the the WHO, every 8 seconds a child under the age of 5 dies, related to the lack of access clean water.
Aren't I a little ray of sunshine?
a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
i was laughing thinking about our response when out door to door, knowing someone was home and pretending not to be.
this is exactly what witnesses do during halloween !
i made sure i said something to my family when the doorbell rang, i said "hey this must be what it's like for a householder who doesn't open the door!!
You Rang???
Actually, I bet somewhere there is some die hard giving them tracts instead of candy.
my mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".
the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.
any other one sentence "stingers"?.
I understand your doctrine changes frequently, that seems unusual.
You claim your organization is perfect, but with imperfect people as participants and leaders, can you explain that?
If I had a change of heart after baptisim, would I be shunned by the organizations and it's members?
HBH
my mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".
the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.
any other one sentence "stingers"?.
I watched a video of your religious leaders online, and they had expensive surroundings, donned expensive suits, wore expensive watches and jewelry, and were in good heath, how much do they get paid?
Oh, so your organization in not (financially) transparent. No thanks.....
HBH
