i was bane and i think i got banned because everytime i tried to log in i couldn't.
i was defending the society as best as i could.
something has happened in the last few months.
Welcome Back...
Wannabe suggested reading some books. I totally agree. Add "Captive to a Concept" to the list.
I, too, would like to know what your wife thinks about your epiphany. Is/was she a JW and what is her feelings?
Your journey has just begun...hang in there for a bumpy ride.
my wife's parents just can't stand that we haven't been to meetings since 2005. both are pioneers, retired, active fanatical jws.. anyway, today mil called the wife and after pleasantries, stated that we should really think about coming back to the meetings so we can better cope.
my wife answered: "cope with what?
" mil: "cope with this old system of things..." wife: "hmmm... we seem to be coping pretty well now".
"Being a JW is the problem, not this system. The guilt, fear and constant boring meetings etc... makes you yearn for the New System™."
3Mozzies - Couldn't have said it better...my MIL tried to pull the same thing on me the other day about the economy and how bad it was. After I hung up with her I asked my husband if it was any worse than "The Great Depression"? I don't see people throwing themselves off 20-story buildings these days.
Broken Promises - you are dead on!
one of my facebook friends is from australia and someone posted "have u had it up to pussies bow?
" what does that mean?.
One of my facebook friends is from Australia and someone posted "have u had it up to pussies bow?" What does that mean?
i am just wondering about what the usual method for jw's to tell you to get the heck out of their life until you shape up and come back to jah routine?.
one more question- let's say someone decided to go back but were possibly df'd, da'd or even just rumored to be an apostate, now they come back and they sit in the back and generally get treated like crap until the elders say their 'time out' is over.
can the family talk to them while they are in the dog house so to speak or do they have to wait until the elders give the ok?
My husbands family has as little contact with us as possible. My mother-in-law called me the other day to tell me that she saw someone that looked like me and it made her so sad.
my mother-in-law called me today and said that she is sending us a dvd that came out at summer convention about the history of the organization and why it is "being used by jehovah".
she asked if we would watch it cause she knows that we don't think wts is being used by god.
i told her that we would watch it and send back to her.
Oh, forgot to ask...what is the title of the dvd on YouTube? I would like to get a jumpstart.
my mother-in-law called me today and said that she is sending us a dvd that came out at summer convention about the history of the organization and why it is "being used by jehovah".
she asked if we would watch it cause she knows that we don't think wts is being used by god.
i told her that we would watch it and send back to her.
Thanks everyone for the input...keep it coming.
I plan on watching the dvd and then sending it back to her with my thoughts. I want my letter to be composed of questions that she cannot answer. If nothing else, she will end up understanding why we don't put our faith in the organization and possibly leave us alone. More than likely she will conclude that we are total apostates and will definitely leave us alone.
Agonus, your Stoops comment cracked me up, thanks!!! I needed that.
my mother-in-law called me today and said that she is sending us a dvd that came out at summer convention about the history of the organization and why it is "being used by jehovah".
she asked if we would watch it cause she knows that we don't think wts is being used by god.
i told her that we would watch it and send back to her.
My mother-in-law called me today and said that she is sending us a dvd that came out at summer convention about the history of the organization and why it is "being used by Jehovah". She asked if we would watch it cause she knows that we don't think WTS is being used by God. I told her that we would watch it and send back to her. I'm thinking that it will be a good opportunity to write down a few things that we disagree on. Has anyone seen this dvd, if so what are your thoughts about it. I would like to start compiling info to send to her. All help appreciated.
aaaaggghhhh!!!
it's the co's visit this week at "my" hall.
i've been dreading this week and now the nightmare is starting to unfold :s the co just called wanting to know how i'm doing.
My friend stopped going to the meetings over a year ago...just stopped all of a sudden. At first she got a lot of phone calls, emails and stop in's at our work to check on her but she avoided them at all costs. She finally sent an email to one of the elders telling him that she was dating someone not a witness and was enjoying a relationship to the fullest with this man. They still hounded her for a while but as far as I know, nothing ever happened. She basically confessed in an email that she was having sex with a worldly man and still nothing. I guess unless they officially meet with you they can't df you. So, AVOID meeting with them at all costs. You look like you might be coming down with the flu!
ohiocowboy - thanks, sweetie. Hope you are doing well, haven't talked to you in a while. undercover-i like your reply, i think i will copy and paste it. thanks, everyone else for your input and b-day wishes. btw, my reply to her was, "why do you think i am celebrating b-days"? i got a text from her that she was going to call me today. she didn't, which i'm glad cause i was swamped at work all day but when she does i think i will use undercover's reply. a few months back i got an email from her because she had heard that i was apostate, so i'm sure it won't be a surprise to her when she finds out that i haven't been to a meeting in over a year. i'm at the point where i don't give a rats ass anymore, pardon my french. I'm finally FREE!!!
it's 40 years since charles manson's 'family' committed the brutal murders of pregnant actress sharon tate and six others in a two-night rampage in la in august 1969. manson is a fascinating docu-drama that takes viewers deep inside a twisted world of hate, fear and mind control.
it shows how one man transformed a harmless group of hippies into a gang of sadistic murderers.
the program also features the first ever in-depth interview with the family's so-called "lookout" linda kasabian.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MU01KZEFKs
I don't know if this is the one you are talking about but here is Part 1 on Youtube. It looks like there are 10 parts.
