I totally identify with what you said, cedars. We avoid our witness families as much as possible. It seems like the further away we get from "the truth" the closer and deeper they get into it. At first I felt sad that the relationship had changed but now that we have friends that are non-witnesses and activities to keep us busy, it doesn't bother me anymore. While I will always love them and would do anything to help them, honestly, I look at them as a sad bunch. They are afraid to do anything with their lives because armageddon is right around the corner. All are struggling to get by financially because they never pursued education or any kind of career.
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Self-shunning Syndrome / The Prime Directive
by cedars ini've recently been reunited with some close family and friends having been away from them for some time in another country.
to begin with, i was a little apprehensive as to how they would treat me.
they don't know the extent of my feelings or knowledge (or what i've been up to!
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That crazy FDS and the GB connection...or lack thereof.
by Aussie Oz inthe whole fds and the gb representing them is a huge jump of impossible logic.... if the wt do not by their own admission, count the annointed nor know how many real ones there are, if they dont consult the remaining ones, the faithful slave how the hell can the gb 'represent' them?.
i mean, how can i for example tell the world that i represent the people of my town in parliment if not only have they never met me, i have never so much as asked one single towns person anything?
if i don't even know how many people live in my town?
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manohman...what blogs and websites???
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Where Are You From?
by finallysomepride inalot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.
if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.
for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .
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The Emerald Coast
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You might have a problem when the conversation ends with your wife walking away from you...fingers in her ears.....yelling " Jehovah help me! Jehovah help me!"
by oompa inbut when they end like that three times....it's strike three... or maybe it was strike #3,333,333.......but it is sad and painful for us both i know.....a person must be in a very very bad place to act like that in front a man you have loved and been intimate with for 15 years....and at that moment i am satan in front of her....a begging pleading attempting to reason satan...but still satan to her and her friends.....but this nice woman needs satan out of her life now....oompa.
i am not a bad person...i am not satan...i asked her why she thought i had tried so hard....told her that if she was in a burning building just how hard would she think i would try to get her out??
she did not like that analogy either...so i have started the painful process...the building is going to burn to the ground now....and i will never put her through that fingers in ears thing again.... and i will be fair and reasonable....and pay her the alimony and give her half....i could so be a satan to her in divorce....but i won't!...i can at least prove to them all that i am decent man...and not mentally diseased or satan.....and ahhhhh i feel good about that....plus both my boys are free now...
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I'm so sorry, Oompa. Having been in the spot where your wife is (kinda) I know how she feels. However, the brain is a computer that stores information and eventually some of the things you have told her will come forward. I hate to see your marriage end if you both really love each other. What about a trial separation? Faced with losing you may help her to open her eyes. Whatever the outcome I'll be thinking of you. Please keep us posted.
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Need some advice, PLEASE!
by TweetieBird ini don't even know where to begin but i'm having trouble with my oldest son (grown) who just moved back home.
he recently got fired and kicked out by his roommate because he has (in my opinion and the rest of my family) an alcohol and pot problem.
he doesn't think he does because he can go days without either, a whole other story.
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Thanks everyone for the input. To update, he has agreed that the "spice" was making him different and has gone back to smoking pot. Wish he didn't do any of it, but for him, it really is the lesser of 2 evils. He is very stubborn and hard-headed, will NEVER admit that he has a drug/alcohol problem so not sure how all of this will pan out. He is an adult so unless things change significantly, he will be moving out soon.
He has agreed to going to a family counselor, so that is probably the next step. Things are much better now.
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Need some advice, PLEASE!
by TweetieBird ini don't even know where to begin but i'm having trouble with my oldest son (grown) who just moved back home.
he recently got fired and kicked out by his roommate because he has (in my opinion and the rest of my family) an alcohol and pot problem.
he doesn't think he does because he can go days without either, a whole other story.
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I don't even know where to begin but I'm having trouble with my oldest son (grown) who just moved back home. He recently got fired and kicked out by his roommate because he has (in my opinion and the rest of my family) an alcohol and pot problem. He doesn't think he does because he can go days without either, a whole other story. He says that he drinks and smokes because he gets bored. Recently, he started smoking spice to stay away from the pot. When he got fired he was seriously depressed so we let him come stay with us temporarily. We suggested that to prove he doesn't have an alcohol problem, he should go the month of August without it, which he was able to for several days but he was still smoking the spice. I don't know much about spice but in my opinion the way it affects him is 1,000 times worse than the pot. Last night was horrible. He unloaded so many layers of pain that he has kept in all these years starting with being raised a JW. I can't change the way we raised him, thought we were doing the right thing, if I could go back and change things I would, yada yada yada. There were other non-witness issues brought up that made me stop and go "wow!". By the time I went to bed last night I was completely drained but I honestly feel that he has a mental illness. He reminds me of my brother that suffered from paranoid schizophrenia(sp) and so much of what my son was saying last night was like talking with my brother, who recently died due to his alcohol and drug use.
My husband and I are at a loss as to what we can do to help him. My other son says to let him leave, that he will have to hit rock bottom, tough love, etc. I honestly believe he has a mental illness and the drinking and smoking are side effects. My husband thinks maybe we should go to family counseling, which my son has reluctantly agreed to in exchange for leaving him alone for the next week and let him do what he wants. My husband has been harping on him the past couple of weeks to go get another job which is what set him off last night. He feels like we think he is a disappointment to us (claims we have told him that in the past), that we would be better off if he just disappeared and so many other statements like that.
Sorry this is long but I am desperate for any input.
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Let me introduce myself
by Kensei01 inhello to all on this board.
thanks so much for creating it and fostering the spirit of welcoming and honesty here.
i have been "lurking" here for a while now and should really introduce myself.
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Welcome to the board. The "elders are appointed by holy spirit" is what got my husband to start doubting it's the truth. One of his friends had been appointed as a MS and then quickly an elder and there was not way holy spirit had anything to do with it.
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Husband stumped his pioneer mother the other day.
by TweetieBird inmy mother-in-law was hounding my husband the other day about our spiritual standing.
conversation led to "the light gets brighter".
he said if that is the case then maybe the light gets brighter for other religions as well.
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My mother-in-law was hounding my husband the other day about our spiritual standing. Conversation led to "the light gets brighter". He said if that is the case then maybe the light gets brighter for other religions as well. It shut her up!
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Update: I got the shun at my dad's funeral- the best outcome really!!
by Coffee House Girl inhello all jwn .
so glad to have that over with- it was surreal to walk in the kh after two years...it is just a building to me now (not "jehovah's house").
i must say that now i'm on the outside...what a boring sad building- the people were not joyful and friendly (just older and fatter than i remember)- i got the nervous stares and shaky "hi" when i looked at all of them and said hello.. my mom was sitting all by herself in the front row of the hall...i went and sat by her side.
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I, too am so sorry for your loss. Jesus said that you will know his people by the love they show...hmmm! When my dad died (he was disassociated at the time of his death) and I was still a witless, nobody in my congregation said anything to me. That was the beginning of the end for me.
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You are right, Mouthy...very funny read. I am on Chapter 7 now. The wanking days are hysterical. Glad I wasn't a boy growing up in the borg.