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AuntConnie
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Where is aunt Connie?
by wannaexit inwith all this serious talk about aawa, i'm missing the good laughs i got from aunt connie.
where did she go?.
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Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?
by minimus ini would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .
and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..
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AuntConnie
Ray Publisher, he's the Apostate I love! His old beard had many posibilities! The secret is out, he's who I think about during missionary sex with my husband!
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Josephus in "the Jewish War" remarks on the nature of eternal life
by kepler inthere is a corresponding topic on science and the immortal soul that reminded me of something that i had encountered in the 7th chapter of josephus's history of the roman campaigns in judea, "the jewish war".
one version of this is available in penguin classics, for example.
"among the jews are three schools of thought, whose adherents are called pharisees, sadducees and essenes respectively...".
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AuntConnie
Where did you secure your materials on the Essenes to prove without a doubt your conclusions and comparisons of the figures of the Bible and the Essenes? You brought out more material than I remember from three classes of Middle Eastern studies. Forced to read what remains of "Pliny the Younger", "Philo" and the insane bound-volume of "Flavious Joe" but I did not extract all the goodies you were able to get from their observations and historical documentation. The educator called "Pliny" a liar and gross embellishing historian, his words about F.J. were not kind either. Philo, he had a few choice words but let's get back to the source material, I love learning new things I missed at school. graciously regards and "toDa"
"I would say that Josephus here gives us a minimum of three views of Jewish thought contemporary to Jesus with regard to eternal life and the immortality of the soul. There were probably more, but what is significant here is that NONE of the groups named put any stock in the idea of bodily resurrection and life on a paradise earth. In fact, here is Josephus suggesting that many of the ideas about this matter came from the Diaspora or else directly from the Greeks, perhaps arising over the century and a half of their rule after the reign of Alexander."
The idea of a everlasting body, what about the Greeks and Hindus with their ideas of living a clean life enabling the man or woman to jump bodies to continue life? The Greek word is "Metempsychosis". You really need to read more, the dates you provide for a soul that does not die are far too late. Think about this, Alexander the Great was bring the Hellenism to his conqueored World back in 333 B.C.. There more material than you limited yourself to, humans have had this desire, go beyond the lands of the Bible. I scanned through a book for a biology class, scientist took cancer cells from a poor woman who had cancer. Her cancer cells were perfection! Please read "The Immortal Life Of Henreitta Lacks" she's been dead since 1950 and her cancer-cells are still splicing and sold around the world! Her cancer cells are immortal and scientist don't have any idea why she was so special. Oprah, she's the best is making a movie about her, Rebecca Sckloot's brain child book. Human Beings are designed to live, not die!
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House of cards graphic - With WT logo anyone?
by RayPublisher incan someone duplicate this idea but use cards that have the wt magazine or logo on them?
that would be an awesome graphic!
i was thinking i could do it in adobe after effects but just have been soooooo busy.. any takers?.
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AuntConnie
Ray, that house is too strong for their current state of mind. Did you attend this installment of "Anxiety and Fear 3.0" in Bakersfield and listen to all their rants and raves that this is it? The speaker was out of his mind when he said "We are wading hip deep in the Jordan River (error on the speaker, Jehovah dried up the Jordan according to my Bible) and don't want to get swept away with it's powerful water currents" before we get to the Promise Land!" They don't know what they are talking about, dip those cards in water and allow them to soak for a hour, than I think it's a fair representation of their combined mental powers. Crying wolf about apostates, more field service, more support (financial) less education, more blind and mindless obedience to their dogmas.
It was really painful this year, I had to take a few breathers to get away from the mindless repetition, the fear mongering of the Apostates and brow-beating for more Field Service Time! I don't understand why there is so much fear in their voices, it's late 1975-1981 all over again, with discension, fear and the staunchest approach to pry out anyone unwilling to tow the Party's line.
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Need Advice On Shunning My Dying Dad, Please Advise!
by AuntConnie indear jwn,.
when i was out in field service yesterday i was approached by some sisters asking me how my dying dad was doing.
i said "i try not to visit him, you will have to ask him yourself.
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AuntConnie
THE FACTS AND NOTHING BUT THE FACTS TO HELP ME AVOID GUILT IF HE DIES. MY DESIRE IS TO KILL ALL VESTIGES OR TRACES OF ANY CONFUSING EMOTIONS IF LORD DEATH TAKE'S HIM OUT. THE ENTIRE STORY LACKING SOME MINOR DETAILS ARE PRESENTED SO I MAY REMAIN CLOAKED. The goal of this thread is to help anyone sort out the conflicting emotions or "lack of emotions" in each individual Jehovah's Witness who are trying to do the right thing by shunning everyone who does not meet our expectations or that of the Governing Body! That is where I am at in my life, after fifty-seven years of a glorious life in the Truth, I am almost 99% dead to emotional concerns to anyone who can't jump through all the hoops or keep up with Jehovah's Organizational Chariot (Treadmill of Theocratic Activity). My friends think I am a emotional vampire and a fake because I don't care about anyone or anything other than my position in the Kingdom Hall as Elderette!
@ Confusedandalone:
1. My dad is not disfellowshiped, he has been unable to attended meetings since his cancer spread into his liver. I have not been to see him because I do not like him anymore. He's all "dried up and shriveled up" I was told by a elder who visited him a few weeks ago.
2. I went through some very bad times, my husband wanted to stay at home during the 1991-1994 period, getting a job was not high on his list so I was stuck making $8 a hour. I had to work two jobs to provide food and no money to make credit card payments, pay the car payments or rent. Dad and Mom were making $600 a month from his disability pension, they borrowed against their house to allow me to have the financial breathing room we needed. It took about two to three years to finally get my husband in a job he would not get fired at. He went through ten jobs and got fired because he would not show up after the third day, he would alway's say "I should stay at home and pioneer, you know the End is near and by working you are supporting the Kingdom by me Pioneering and having the Slave use me as a Elder!"
3. Yes, he is dying, when the ambulence came by to take him to the hospital four months ago, we both stood at our gate and watched them load him into it and never called or checked on him. My husband is at home, he often works from 9:00 AM to 12:30, Three Hours is a long day for him these days.
4. In my younger days I did not get a education, I barely paid attention in High School so it's easy for a person to be swayed by a strong arming man. My lord (Hubby) convinced me that Dad was like Korah, not listening to the instruction of the modern Moses and going around their back by bringing my brother who was living out under a bridge. Call my brother Joey, Joey was not attending the Meetings, hanging around with homeless people and doing bad things we are told to shun. When they brought Joey back on their land (I rented their rental until or paid $100 a month in rent) my husband and I were strong and have not spoken with them for seven years now. I hope he dies pretty quick! Since coming back from Panama as Pioneers, they stopped attending meetings regularly when they both got sick, so if they don't attend Meetings I can easily classify them as "Weak" or "In-Active" or "Bad Associate" because they still help my drug addicted brother with money when he can't pay his bills.
I swear to Jehovah this is a true story, call me crazy or evil but I want to kill anything left inside me that my pop up if he dies. I want no regrets showing him and mom that they should have not acted like Korah or Miriam!
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Need Advice On Shunning My Dying Dad, Please Advise!
by AuntConnie indear jwn,.
when i was out in field service yesterday i was approached by some sisters asking me how my dying dad was doing.
i said "i try not to visit him, you will have to ask him yourself.
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AuntConnie
Dear JWN,
When I was out in Field Service yesterday I was approached by some sisters asking me how my dying dad was doing. I said "I try not to visit him, you will have to ask him yourself." Dad is not disfellowshiped, his sins are that he allowed my homeless brother to move in with us when my brother was not in "good standing". Dad and Mom took care of me when I filed for bankrupty and had my cars repo'ed. They are the ones who allowed me to go two years without paying rent (remember my husband the elder was taking a hiatus from working?) yet my hatred for Dad knows no bounds.
Please help me! How can I shun him, my religion allows me to judge him as worthy for Gehenna so my brain put's him in a catagory of Apostate, that way I can allow my "eighty year old" Mum to juggle him while I SHINE FIELD SERVICE! AM I BAD?
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Where In the Bible Does It Say To Hate People Who Leave The Organization? Apostates and the District Convention Theme of Hating Them!
by AuntConnie ini am back from bakersfield and i can say it was the best district convention ever!
the end is coming soon, a few of the annointed were speaking about 2014 possibly being the year that jehovah would destroy all the hateful apostates!
the focus of this convention was not on love or the message of the good news of the kingdom.
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AuntConnie
The god I worship taught me that we should kick people like this in the face, not help them! There is a sin detective in one of the local congregations who is really a jewel. He is on the internet seeking out people to out, meanwhile I have him on tape talking about how he does not believe any of the Governing Body's explanations of End Times prophecy. What kind of man can remain a elder and not believe what the Governing Body teaches and at the same time hunt down children on the Internet in a attempt to keep the Congregation clean? He is really Phucked up don't you think? Should I upload his voice onto a website to help him understand he is the one who needs to be "Outed"?
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New Arrangement: All Can Listen In to Bethel Annual Meeting
by Red Piller ina letter read at our meeting.. .
our congregation is assigned a location (a nearby congregation) to listen (video, also?
) to the annual meeting.
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AuntConnie
What's the use of being a elderette if all the "dirt and rabble" are invited to listen to a meeting once reserved for people who follow the strict instructions of the Faithful Slave and get their time in each month. That's real nice, allowing basic Jane and Ray Publishers to attend the Annual Convention broadcasts that were once reserved for the Elect! Way to go, nice job at watering down our value before the rest of the Congregation!
They can make it up by making seperate bathrooms for spiritual women and another padded bathroom for the depressed ones crying about their disfellowshiped children or dying parents so our happy feelings of superiority are not troubled during the Meetings nor will we get our dresses wet from their tears!
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Where In the Bible Does It Say To Hate People Who Leave The Organization? Apostates and the District Convention Theme of Hating Them!
by AuntConnie ini am back from bakersfield and i can say it was the best district convention ever!
the end is coming soon, a few of the annointed were speaking about 2014 possibly being the year that jehovah would destroy all the hateful apostates!
the focus of this convention was not on love or the message of the good news of the kingdom.
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AuntConnie
I am back from Bakersfield and I can say it was the best District Convention ever! The End is coming soon, a few of the Annointed were speaking about 2014 possibly being the year that Jehovah would destroy all the hateful Apostates! The focus of this Convention was not on love or the message of the Good News of the Kingdom. Can you imagine the Watchtower teaching a simple book like "Pilgrims Journey" by Bunyan? The Annointed don't have those burdens of sins because Jesus is their mediator and the rest of the seven million don't have Jesus as their mediator. It's called "trickle down mediation" and eventually that sacrifice of Jesus Christ will drip off the Annointed and land on a few of the highly productive Witnesses who are crawling, limping, jogging or running in place, and if we get off it for a rest, they guilt us to climb back on that perpetual treadmill of spiritual activity lovingly provided by the Faithful Slave.
I overheard a conversation with some of the weaker witnesses that can't understand that we must hate Apostates like we hate Satan the Devil! Why do Apostates have to ruin our Assemblies or why are they constantly mentioned and why do we need to be beaten up with non stop mention of their misdeads? The speakers went on and on and rambled that we should not be malingering around Apostate websites because they can be tricky and lead you into a spiritual black-hole. Now, it might seem strange that I ask questions here but where else can I get some answers that make sense? Jesus said that we must "love our enemies and pray for them" did he not? Why does the Watchtower teach people who leave the Watchtower need to be treated like radioactive waste or like they have been exposed to the Ebola Virus? We are to run from these agents of destruction who have been judged as unworthy of Jehovah's love and Jesus Christ's ransom. Most of us are not covered under Jesus Ransom sacrifice, that little gem of truth remains hidden because it might scare some of the people who read their Bible and can't reconcile "hating your enemey" and "spiritually stonning someone who does not accept the Governing Body as your personal Saviour." Apostates try to reveal the small misdeads the Organization has done, they enjoy picking on all those scabs and crazy doctrines drunk and mentally ill Presidents had revealed to them. Russell had said we were better off without a Bible if we had his "Study in the Scriptures", Rutherford said that "All Organized Religion is from Satan the Devil" yet we talk about how we are the greatest Organized Religion on Earth? Franz and Rutherford said that Jesus was not the Mediator of all mankind, he is only able to help with 7500 annointed and the rest who claim to be annointed are not annointed because it's highly likely they are not mentally stable according to many of the brothers I talked to. The growth of the annointed is scaring the Organization because Jehovah told them that he had already used up his 144,000 tickets by 1939, that number was sealed for good! Now we have a new group in our Kingdom Hall to despise, brothers and sisters who claim they are of the annointed! We are good at judging and hating our fellows, nobody knows the pain and suffering we endure by dealing with all of the whacko Witnesses who claim to be something they are not!
Jehovah's Witnesses naturally know how to hate, it's the loving part that we do not know how to do. We can preach and do "drive by" field service, volunteer our time and monies yet we are not a loving group of people. I think that is what draws me to the Organization, I do not like people very much and I hate field service even more. I think that is why we are called Jehovah's Witnesses because Christians are suppose to love their enemies and pray for those persecuting them. As Jehovah's Witnesses, we are allowed to hate those who leave us and speak ill of the Organization. The more I read the Bible, the more I am learning our religion is not a Bible based religion or we would not be so quick to judge, to find fault or walk by that Jew who was beaten up on the road to Jerusalem while a Mormon or Born-againer dressed up their wounds and took care of them. The teachings we preach to the public are not the teachings we keep to ourselves in private or talk about behind closed doors.
Nothing was mentioned at the District Assembly about helping make the World a better place. The fact is that people are really stupid to work at Food Banks, helping soldiers deal with PTSD, working with a suicide hot-line or helping with anything that makes this World a better place until Jehovah Returns It's frowned upon to help the homeless or Hobos, it's best to provide them with a Watchtower or a new book like the Revelation Book that's in the works. Jesus did not tell us to help the poor or the needy, he said he wanted us to place as much literature as possible and hate Apostates, Jesus said to Hate those who are disagreeing with you and I, your Aunt Connie live to hate everyone including all the useless weak and poor Witnesses that don't have a job or take medication for mental illness, I hate them too!
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Visit to Bethel, Convention Jitters and Kingdom Hall Attendance Dropping of a Cliff!
by AuntConnie ini feel like jehovah has cursed me some days and others i feel he is using me to direct others out the front and back door of our kingdom hall.
here's my update on our perfect congregation, we are losing publishers monthly with meeting attendance down below one hundred during the weekday meeting.
should i feel guilty for mistreating the miserable mentally ill and chronically ill publishers who are milking the public welfare system, nto because they do not deserve anything better but because they bring only their appetite to our spiritual banquet while we elderettes study the watchtower and wow the publishers with our thirty second polished comments to bring praise to jehovah.
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I feel like Jehovah has cursed me some days and others I feel he is using me to direct others out the front and back door of our Kingdom Hall.
Here's my update on our perfect congregation, we are losing publishers monthly with meeting attendance down below one hundred during the weekday meeting. Should I feel guilty for mistreating the miserable mentally ill and chronically ill publishers who are milking the public welfare system, nto because they do not deserve anything better but because they bring only their appetite to our spiritual banquet while we elderettes study the Watchtower and Wow the publishers with our thirty second polished comments to bring praise to Jehovah. I have other good news to share with all the heathen, me and my husband were handpicked by Jehovah God to be part of the program during the District Convention to demonstrate how a proper family should behave and present themselves publically.
Will the stupid publishers that attended conventions before the rest of us shut up! Like most spiritual obedient families, we attend the correct and spirit directed date set by Jehovah's Faithful Slave! Now, I heard there is a real doozy part on evil, sneaky, malicious and wicked apostates. I heard part of this part because one inconsiderate sister started to spew off the program until I put my foot in her mouth (verbally) to stop the flow. Why are apostates gaining momentum and why must almost every convention mention the impact of the internet and the Evil Slave? The best advice to give all weak publishers who would disobey Jehovah and receive his wrath by looking at a different website might be to ignore the problem. Why are the brothers at Bethel so scared of little old apostates with loud lungs?
One day the Organization is going to realize all the time they spend on the weak, sick and social fringes of the Kingdom Hall will be their downfall. The spiritually strong don't visit these sites; they do not listen to strange voices or read Blogs attacking our holy union of brothers! At our Kingdom Hall we stopped calling on stragglers who miss the Meeting, why bother wasting time with people who are not going to amount to anything in our spiritual society? I am emotionally void of any empathy to the "takers" that bring problems and burn up the time of our precious elders. It's time the Organization figures out who produces and places magazines, books and brings in new ones instead of wasting time on emotional and sick vampires draining us of our sanity. I can't give anymore and the thought of talking to the litter of the Kingdom has me taking more valium than ever. What's the best advice to avoid the majority of the publishers who don't publish but whine about their lot in life?