Bump back to the front of the line, if a few Bible Studies would listen to these audios and videos, Ray's videos will save them from devoting their lives to Satan.
AuntConnie
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How to DF 2 People With ZERO Proof! New YouTube video and article
by RayPublisher inthis story is quite remarkable and no doubt many will appreciate it being told.
it is telling for several reasons; it highlights the fact that the watchtower organization can expel and marginalize anyone for literally anything if they are crossed.
they did that to ray franz back in the early 1980s and they recently have done it to these fine folks.. there are some six pieces of documentation in the account and it is in some ways a complicated mess, but it really boils down to a couple of active witnesses informing on someone to the elders.
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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AuntConnie
What's up with all the fear of Jesus Christ's name? By what authority did you change the name given to Christians the Holy Spirit revealed to first-century followers of Jesus Christ? (Acts 11:25-27).
Was Paul showing a lack of faith in God by using Jesus Christ's name excessively? (Ephesians chapter 1) and what is the curse for changing the "Good News" Paul declared to the Galatians? (Galatians chapter 1).
He/She is a rebel/apostate according to the written Gospel of Bethel and Patterson there is no excuse for any follower of the Watchtower Society to frequent these Message Boards. I heard from the Horses's Mouth, only a Apostate will post on these Boards and there is no excuse around that truth provided by the Faithful Slave. You have sat yourself down at the "table of the demons" according to the masters of your faith.
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How Many Here Are On Facebook & How Often Do You Frequent The Site?
by minimus ini'm on it every couple of days and it's usually to see pics of my grandkids or to get the 411 onwhat's going on..
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AuntConnie
Facebook is a "No No" according to a few righteous sisters updates. Using a Smart Phone I saw a sister's Facebook page with a photo of the Governing Body and 100 Likes, that's why I fear opening up a Facebook account, did not need the boys at Patterson's to tell me not to join so I can see "updates" of people out in Field Service or photos of the Sunday speaker or Bethel Overseers.
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So you want to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxo8nj-jpo.
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from roguepixel100 on youtube.
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AuntConnie
Your better off trying to check out of the Hotel California than Hostel de Patterson. Hotel California allows you to check-out, with Pattterson no permit is given for any reason. Newbies, once you check in you will never be able to leave.
Why is a heavy emphasis on Jesus Christ's name so scary to long-time Jehovah's Witnesses? Early Christians were anxious to share the Good News about Jesus Christ while Modern Jehovah's Witnesses will frown and look upon you with great suspcion if you mention his name more than once a month (or something like that) leading to close monitoring of your activity. Where did we go wrong and how did we miss the unhealthy fear of Jesus Christ's name, it's a Cult thing.
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WARNING! "I AM CALLING THE ELDERS ON YOU NOW! STUPID PUBLISHERS THREATENING THEIR MATE AND LOVED ONES!
by AuntConnie inwhy are people so weak in the organization and unable to keep their partner of twenty years free from the accusations of gossip mongering brothers and sister?.
this thread is dedicated to all the couples who suffered great damage when their immature spouse brought in the elders for every wrongdoing their loved ones might have done.
the organization twists the reality of the role the elders play in a congregation.
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AuntConnie
Thank you Cofty, the opposite of this problem is the silence that allows pedophiles and theives to roam the circuit fleecing the families for tens of thosuands of dollars!
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WARNING! "I AM CALLING THE ELDERS ON YOU NOW! STUPID PUBLISHERS THREATENING THEIR MATE AND LOVED ONES!
by AuntConnie inwhy are people so weak in the organization and unable to keep their partner of twenty years free from the accusations of gossip mongering brothers and sister?.
this thread is dedicated to all the couples who suffered great damage when their immature spouse brought in the elders for every wrongdoing their loved ones might have done.
the organization twists the reality of the role the elders play in a congregation.
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AuntConnie
Why are people so weak in the Organization and unable to keep their partner of twenty years free from the accusations of gossip mongering brothers and sister?. This thread is dedicated to all the couples who suffered great damage when their immature spouse brought in the elders for every wrongdoing their loved ones might have done. The Organization twists the reality of the role the elders play in a congregation. The elders are not policemen and do not have authority to punish anyone, according to the Bible, they can give advice and offer loving counsel but we all know that rarely takes place. So, a husband and wife live on the edge, hoping their spouse does not call the elders to reveal one of her/his vices, what kind of marriage is that? How petty is the Watchtower to create a tattle-tale home environment where the mentally weak publishers live in fear of coming home after a long and hard day of work, only to find two or three elders sitting on his couch with the dreaded yellow notepads. That's a great way to start your weekend off, here are a few stories newbie JWN members probably have not experienced and I hope this warns you of calling in the congregation's A-team! Love you all!
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The Watchtower Society places the wrong emphasis on what a elder is capable of and what a elder is supposedly allowed to involve himself in. Let’s get this out in the open so newbies and former elders can comment on all the crazy Shepherding Calls our elders were forced to Shepherd.
Some Elders are arrogant, I remember talking to one Elder who said “Jehovah’s Organization helps all the elders become a “Jack of all trades” through our great theocratic education (Watchtower-Awake B.S., M.S. and phD), the Slave helped me become a marriage counselor, financial planner, handy man, psychiatrist and psychologist by keeping up with our reading and listening to the friends speak their mind. Jehovah’s Organization has the most competent Shepherds of any religious organization.” We got in to this discussion because a sister had found pornography in her husband’s work office and ran to the elders (She is close to fifty years-old) telling them her elder husband was “at it again”. Our sister decided instead of confronting her husband on his “questionable habit”, she needed to involve the elders with their marital problems. She was uncomfortable with his sexual habits of desiring sex more than once a week and wanting to experiment with different positions and possibly oral-sex and anything else to wake up their stale marriage. Women share their stories about their husband in car-groups, not cool to expose your husband’s secrets to the Flock he’s supposed to be watching over. He was removed from his position and now is focusing on his work, everyone is wondering why he was removed from his position thinking it might be adultery due to innuendo of his wife. He’s a very good man, a gentle brother who enjoy’s studying the magazines from every time period and now he is the focus of gossping women and brothers thinking (one of the most educated Watchtower trained ex-elders) he is evil. Great Job to his babbling wife!
The second example is about a sister whose daughter was getting the Hell beat out of her by a wicked little third generation JW prince. His father once was the leader of our circuit, he carried lots of clout and when his boys got in trouble, he would “quid-pro-quo” them out of trouble. Little prince was six feet tall, weighed about 230lbs, wife 5:6 and 120lbs with bad health problems. The black eyes, bruised wrists and missing tooth were a dead give-away. After close to killing his wife in one of his drunken bouts of JW approved social drinking, she ran home to her former Marine dad. He became full of righteous indignation and said “I am going to kill that little bastard!” his wife instead of trying to talk her husband down to a more mellow state of mind, called the elders and they rushed over like lighting! Instead of focusing on the evil little wife-beating prince, she started to dump on her husband bringing up shit that had no bearing on the present moment. She talked about their unusual sex life, her husband’s record keeping of his business along with petty things he might have done.
He was removed from the “body of elders” because his wife called in the trouble-shooting team of Gomer and Gufus. What happened to the wife beater, nothing really, just a slap on the wrist and told to be a good little boy. His wife was grilled by Organizational wisdom, the basic “Are you keeping your house clean? How is your sexual life, are you a dead lay? What about dinner, do you try to make tasty dishes so he is not so angry? You know being on disability is hard on your husband, why not try to get home faster from your job and work harder around the house? Make yourself pretty and be more positive and try to get him out in the Field Ministry, that’s where Jehovah work’s his magic on us, even if you preach for a hour as a couple, you will find it’s calming affects are strong. Those are real words from that “Jack of all trades Elder” and his buddy Batman (hit in the head by a baseball bat because of impropriety), there has to be another way than bringing in Batman and Goober to help solve your maritial problems, ask somebody on JWN for advice about love, life and marriage please!
Almost always the Watchtower Organization misquotes Paul’s advice to the Corinthian Congregation. The Watchtower pervert’s these passages to mean we are not able to eat the deep things (Spiritual Meat) like “Overlapping Generation”, “Anointed Being De-Anointed or Castrated in the July 15 th 2013 Watchtower, their flip-flopping view of joining the United Nations, JWs can take blood but not give blood. The spiritual sages who played with the lives of the African brothers in Malawi while they allowed the Mexican brotehrs to bribe military officials while joining the military. Deep meaty things Paul was hoping his Corithian children would absorb without asking questions, not that’s total bull-shit! It’s a long thread and I apologize to everyone who reads this but if we are still worshiping God we need to know what Paul was speaking about. What do you think Paul meant when he told the congregation they were not capable of receiving spiritual meat, only spiritual milk.
“2 Dear brothers, even when I first came to you I didn’t use lofty words and brilliant ideas to tell you God’s message. 2 For I decided that I would speak only of Jesus Christ and his death on the cross. 3 I came to you in weakness—timid and trembling. 4 And my preaching was very plain, not with a lot of oratory and human wisdom, but the Holy Spirit’s power was in my words, proving to those who heard them that the message was from God. 5 I did this because I wanted your faith to stand firmly upon God, not on man’s great ideas.
6 Yet when I am among mature Christians I do speak with words of great wisdom, but not the kind that comes from here on earth, and not the kind that appeals to the great men of this world, who are doomed to fall. 7 Our words are wise because they are from God, telling of God’s wise plan to bring us into the glories of heaven. This plan was hidden in former times, though it was made for our benefit before the world began. 8 But the great men of the world have not understood it; if they had, they never would have crucified the Lord of Glory.”
1 Cor 3:
“3 Dear brothers, I have been talking to you as though you were still just babies in the Christian life who are not following the Lord but your own desires; I cannot talk to you as I would to healthy Christians who are filled with the Spirit. 2 I have had to feed you with milk and not with solid food because you couldn’t digest anything stronger. And even now you still have to be fed on milk. 3 For you are still only baby Christians, controlled by your own desires, not God’s. When you are jealous of one another and divide up into quarreling groups, doesn’t that prove you are still babies, wanting your own way? In fact, you are acting like people who don’t belong to the Lord at all. 4 There you are, quarreling about whether I am greater than Apollos, and dividing the church. Doesn’t this show how little you have grown in the Lord? [ a ]
5 Who am I, and who is Apollos, that we should be the cause of a quarrel? Why, we’re just God’s servants, each of us with certain special abilities, and with our help you believed. 6 My work was to plant the seed in your hearts, and Apollos’ work was to water it, but it was God, not we, who made the garden grow in your hearts. 7 The person who does the planting or watering isn’t very important, but God is important because he is the one who makes things grow. 8 Apollos and I are working as a team, with the same aim, though each of us will be rewarded for his own hard work. 9 We are only God’s coworkers. You are God’s garden, not ours; you are God’s building, not ours.
10 God, in his kindness, has taught me how to be an expert builder. I have laid the foundation and Apollos has built on it. But he who builds on the foundation must be very careful. 11 And no one can ever lay any other real foundation than that one we already have—Jesus Christ. 12 But there are various kinds of materials that can be used to build on that foundation. Some use gold and silver and jewels; and some build with sticks and hay or even straw! 13 There is going to come a time of testing at Christ’s Judgment Day to see what kind of material each builder has used. Everyone’s work will be put through the fire so that all can see whether or not it keeps its value, and what was really accomplished. 14 Then every workman who has built on the foundation with the right materials, and whose work still stands, will get his pay. 15 But if the house he has built burns up, he will have a great loss. He himself will be saved, but like a man escaping through a wall of flames.
16 Don’t you realize that all of you together are the house of God, and that the Spirit of God lives among you in his house? 17 If anyone defiles and spoils God’s home, God will destroy him. For God’s home is holy and clean, and you are that home.
Forgive for the lenght of the thead, the goal is to inform newbies and get some of the elders and elder's wives here to bring up your past experience with crazy publishers using the thread of "I am going to call the elders on you!"
With great love to everyone on JWN, your Aunt Connie.
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just when you think you've made friends with a "normal" person
by Hortensia inrode over to the farmer's market with a couple of neighbors, nice women, seem sensible.
the driver stopped in the middle of a block and stared at the coca-cola truck that was parked there.
she said, "do you see the round tower?
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AuntConnie
I am trying very hard to make some worldy-friends but I have the "eagle-eye" husband who ask's me "where you been" if I am twenty minutes off schedule. What's the big deal if I am early or late, he's on the TV most of the night while I try to read JWN or do some Bible reading and Discovery Institute for learning. Sisters hiding must be careful, in the process of making friends with a Scientologist trying to evade their radar and a nice born-again Christian (through JWN, I learned we all most be born-again Christians or we are not saved).
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Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie in.
throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.
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AuntConnie
We can't Villagegirl! It's the truth about the Watchtower's Library that it contains books were are not allowed to have. I was lucky enough to see that "it's is ok for them to read the strange books from ancient times" because they said so! Those books would get a regular JW disfellowshiped or "marked" as suspicious, and I digress about their hypocrical nature.
What can we do to make up our kids childhood, we can start by being authentic and love them all there is! Today is a new day Girl, let's love them without guilt or superstitious caution the Organization pumped us full of!
The former members of the Governing Body learned got their truth from Christendom and the Occult, it's a bitter truth or drink-offering to God we are old to swallow.
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Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie in.
throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.
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AuntConnie
The July 15th, 2013 "Study Edition" is clear we are not the property of the "Faithful Slave" until Jesus Christ returns in 2525 or 3535 or 4545? So who do we belong to, if we are not the Slave's? The writers of the Watchtower have put this paradox before everyone who read that magazine. According to our past books and magazines, we should not follow the Slave because Jesus Christ has not approved or sanatized them. Was it the Truth Book that said "Jehovah's Witnesses follow the Faithful Slave because Jesus Christ inspected them and found them worthy to watch and feed them"? The Slave is not identified, the Evil Slave has not been cleansed from the Master's giant palace, so who or what we believe because our lives are at stake. JWs are going to be just like the "goats" in Jesus Parable, "lord lord, did we not do great works in your name?"
Zager and Evans Song
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took todayIn the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at youIn the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for youIn the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tubeIn the year 7510
If God's a-coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
"Guess it's time for the Judgement Day"In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say, "I'm pleased where man has been"
Or tear it down, and start againIn the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothingNow it's been ten thousand years, man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday" -
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Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie in.
throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.
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AuntConnie
The July 15th, 2013 "Study Edition" is clear we are not the property of the "Faithful Slave" until Jesus Christ returns in 2525 or 3535 or 4545?
In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took todayIn the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at youIn the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for youIn the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tubeIn the year 7510
If God's a-coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
"Guess it's time for the Judgement Day"In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say, "I'm pleased where man has been"
Or tear it down, and start againIn the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothingNow it's been ten thousand years, man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday"