Posts by TerryWalstrom

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Scientists Seek Religious Experience -- in the Brain

by truthseeker100 in

scientists seek religious experience -- in the brain.

by geoffrey mohan.

published:.

I Find This "Humerus" ( ad1914.com )

by Gilgamesh in

copied from http://ad1914.com/2015/01/10/i-find-this-humerus/ .

i am including this post to the site because it reveals something about just how crazy we have been at coming up with strange doctrines.

some would just chalk it up to the insanity of fred franz.. by 1951, the watchtower started doing some math: 33+37=70 so 1914+37=1951.

TerryWalstrom

It was about this time I started attended the Kingdom Hall in Fort Worth, Texas.

I heard this quite a bit.

I have to say, most of the Bros. & Sister's were gleeful about it, as though they

were in on a macabre joke.

Much discussion of a gossipy nature centered on the birds of the heavens picking the bones clean.

What was my impression?

Compared to the bland vanilla piety of regular church, I thought it was rather entertaining like going to a horror movie.

Did I believe any of it?

I can't say that it penetrated my rational mind toward acceptance.

It was merely interesting. I'd compare it to knowing somebody who could touch

their nose with the tip of their own tongue. It was a bizarre novelty you'd show off

to others merely to get a reaction.

The above plus an obsession about Jesus NOT having a beard was really a big deal with JW's in the 50's.

Sigh. . .

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First Time Post - Long time reader

by Samaritan At the Well in

today is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.

i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.

my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.

TerryWalstrom

Welcome.

You are a writer.

The gift of narrative flows like a river in you.

I'm looking forward to your future posts.

We all go through the same process, but there are no shortcuts. So, fasten

your seatbelt.

Think of this place as a crucible and a hospital.

Here there is madness, hope, sanity, and a portal to freedom--but, you must

fight your way through it.

Nobody has any answers, we have only our experience to offer.

Welcome and Cheers!

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WHAT IS LEFT? Have all the major teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses now changed?

by TerryWalstrom in

was there a second coming?.

a 3rd coming?.

" (the 3rd coming?).

TerryWalstrom

In case you haven't been paying attention, the Watchtower religion has reinvented itself.

To do so it has had to scrap previous teachings.

Why?

Apostates have beaten them over the head relentlessly. So many interpretations

are provable as false guesses passed off as 'channeled' truth.

Beginning with 1914 and its signficiance, the GB has taken a shrewed course in presenting

the clean slate as SIMPLIFICATION! Never has such care been taken in sneaking around the

wrongness of past teachings. No.

Instead, words are employed to turn the pile of shit into a hunting ground for ponies!

And they now have ponies galore!

I've been predicting for quite some time 1914 would be abandoned. With scathingly

brilliant sneakiness, they've done the next best thing. The 'significance' has been vandalized.

______________________________________

1. Did Jesus come back to the Earth? Did he return? Was there a second coming?

2. Since when has Jesus been PRESENT, although invisible?

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Watchtower June 15, 1954

"This time began in 1914 and that means that Christ is now present and invisible."

Watchtower June 15, 1979

"This 2nd presence begins with his 2nd coming."

Watchtower July 15, 2013

"Jesus makes eight references to his "coming" or arrival. Regarding

the great tribulation, he states: "They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds."

Each of four of these references, it further states, "applies to Christ's future coming as Judge."

________________

Question: How many times is Jesus "coming"?

1914 is Jesus' 2nd coming. What about the above mentioned "future coming," is that

a 3rd coming?

______________________

We are living in 2014 100 years after 1914 which is in our past.

For JW's, the 2nd coming is past.

This "future coming" is another coming!

________________________

BIG BLOOPER HERE:

"In the past, we have stated in our publications that these last four references applied to Jesus'

arriving, or coming in 1918 . . . " (The 3rd coming?)

". . . each of these eight references to his coming applies to the future time of judgment during

the great tribulation."

_____________________________

So. . .

WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE of 1914 if it cannot be the 2nd coming?

How is it Christ is "now present and invisible" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=red3CNxHYgA

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Do you believe what the Bible teaches? If "yes", why? If "no", why?

by Tenacious in

if you do believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

if you don't believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

on a personal note, there are many things that i can't help but notice that coincide with what the apostle paul wrote to timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:.

TerryWalstrom

I like to ask this sincere question.

It should be the easiest question anybody ever asked, predicated on the premise God is supernatural and an omniscient being who inspired the Bible.

______________________ QUESTION : _______________

Name one provable bit of information provided in the Bible which

no human mind could have provided at the time of writing, which could have

only come from a supernatural source.

____________________________________________________

Now I'll sit back and watch what happens . . .

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The Watchtower Still Depends on "1914"

by Doug Mason in

my latest study, "the watchtower still depends on '1914'" is available at:.

http://www.jwstudies.com/the_watchtower_still_depends_on_1914.pdf .

please tell me of the corrections i need to make.

TerryWalstrom

The date of 1914 can't go away, but everything surrounding this event has recently

been scrapped and replaced!

1914 will become to JW theology eventually what the appendix is to the human body;

Vestigial.

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Do you believe what the Bible teaches? If "yes", why? If "no", why?

by Tenacious in

if you do believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

if you don't believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

on a personal note, there are many things that i can't help but notice that coincide with what the apostle paul wrote to timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:.

TerryWalstrom

Look no further than the history of 'Christianity' and your answer is hiding in plain sight.

Who was the first Christian? Did this person become such by reading something like the Bible? Or, were there so many debates, arguments, controversies about who said what to whom that a NEED arose to "prove" things.

The first hack at a Bible came from a person named Marcion. Yes--THAT Marcion!

He was Gnostic and eagerly embraced the only 'Christian' writings available (letters from Saul (Paul) of Tarsus.

Marcion tossed out writings about the raving lunatic God of the Hebrews (Yahweh) and assembled Paul's letters into reference.

For awhile, Marcion's side was winning. But, the early Christian community calling itself Universal (i.e. Catholic) excommunicated Marcion and--not unlike the Governing Body of JW's today) marginalized Marcion as Apostate.

4 to 5 HUNDRED years passed . . .

After much arguing and in-fighting, a Bible 'canon' was collected.

This became--by men's decree only--the official BIBLE of history.

Would you like to guess how many books it contained?

There were more than we have today!

Under the 2000+ year history of the Universal Christian Church (i.e. Catholicism)

Christians got along just fine without ever reading their Bible. Their Governing Body told them all they needed to know!

Protestations by the monk, Martin Luther, led to a great upheaval and the splitting of Christianity into a do-it-yourself group of Protestants.

Their unique claim was naive: all you need is the Bible, prayer and the Holy Spirit.

The result?

Today, we have over 41,000 separate denominations with differning interpretations of the SAME Bible!

So, now--please ask that question again, won't you?

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MAJOR DOCTRINE CHANGE IN 1/15/2014 WT ON GENERATION TEACHING

by EndofMysteries in

the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.

i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.

"yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".

TerryWalstrom

Let's get the BIG PICTURE clear before sweeping up the shakedown of little details.

EVERYTHING has changed.

Jehovah's Witnesses (the GB) have reinvented their doctrines!

We can congratulate EX-JW community of 'apostates' for successfully gutting that fish.

It was imperative they start from scratch. They swallowed hard and pulled the trigger.

The murderer has returned to the scene of the crime and the fingerprints, smoking gun, and blood spatters have been eliminated.

Bottom line: the GB has, in effect, stated: "That was THEN, but this is NOW. Deal with it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=red3CNxHYgA

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Anybody Miss Me?

by minimus in

jw
friends

just checking in.

TerryWalstrom

I see the sex change operation went off without a hitch!

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Negative forum behavior

by Simon in

another good codinghorror blog entry perfectly describes some people's online behaviour and an approach to handling it.

i'll post part of it below but to summarize, these tend to be behaviours that don't violate any specific rules as such as the people doing it try to carefully skate just up to the line but they are nevertheless disruptive and we're not going to tolerate them on this site.

if you are here to do these things then this isn't the site for you - move along, find someplace else on the internet to inhabit.. hate is easy to recognize.

TerryWalstrom

On the Christadelphian site they have a unique feature which I have only mentioned once here many years ago.

PANKRATION

This is a special arena for people with personal grudges to debate each other outside the general population (visiting newbies).

The ill effects of a newcommer visiting for the first time and encountering the stench of negativity wrongly biases.

This is a kind of hospital, if you stop and think about it. It is a recovery ward. It is a community picnic. It's ill-mannered to push, shove, and name-call at any of those.

However--a special Pankration arena with certain guidelines attached, will bring the REAL battle out into the open. Otherwise, it festers into covert hostility.

When I got to a certain Mexican restaurant I see the condiment area marked

according to how HOT the ingredients are. I think a similar function might be advisable for certain Topics. Controversial topics are HOT.

Proper labeling goes a long way toward preparing us for what lies therein.

Most of the bad stuff I've seen in the last decade on tis Discussion Forum has been due to certain persons POSTURING for the attention of the outside audience rather than settling things privately by internal PM.

I know because I've tried to PM certain irritating people who ignore the PM and continue their natter on the public forum.

So anyway. . .

That's my suggestion: PANKRATION arena for members only. It is one on one and not a free-for-all. Members can observe without comment.