Mr. Cellophane, I don't even have a car--but my bicycle gets me where I need to go:)
We'd love to have you come out next Sunday. We decided to make it a regular thing.
PM me with your cell number or e-mail, of you like.
it looks like 5 of us will get together tomorrow at a starbucks on camp bowie in fort worth, texas.. this is one of those impromptu occasions which either suddenly come together or else just get jaw-jacked into a non-event:).
ricky g is a recently minted ex-jw who is moving to my vicinity from denton.
he has posted his story and other videos on youtube.
Mr. Cellophane, I don't even have a car--but my bicycle gets me where I need to go:)
We'd love to have you come out next Sunday. We decided to make it a regular thing.
PM me with your cell number or e-mail, of you like.
this came up on terry walstrom thread topic recently and i thought it would be good to explore this further.
the jws are quite boisterous and arrogant that they use the proper name of jehovah as the divine name of god.
but a little investigation discovers something quite different.
Let's make an analogy.
In my town, street signs have names like MAPLE BLVD.
Now, what happens when somebody asks where you live?
Don't you supply the vowel sounds when you say, "Maple Boulevard"?
You automatically do that, just as you'd say "Street" if it was MAPLE ST.
I live in Ft.Worth, TX.
I say, "Fort Worth, Texas."
So far, so good.
A thousand years from now, if you dug up that street sign, whoever is alive at that time may not be aware what BLVD or ST or FT. or TX means or HOW TO SAY IT.
So, as in the case of YhWh, they might well guess.
MAPLE BiLoVud
FaT Worth, Texas
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None of the above is a crisis of any major proportions, of course.
But, it becomes more serious when it comes to a HOLY NAME which represents the Almighty Living God.
YaHOO WaHoo
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Would you introduce your fiancee's parents to your friends without being absolutely certain of the correct pronunciation? If not--why not?
What would you think if your wife misspelled your name?
How about getting letters in the mail with your name wrong?
Would it annoy you? Why?
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The Watchtower Corporation has made T-shirts for all its members to wear day and night since 1931, so to speak, in which it has rolled the dice on the TRUE name. If they are wrong, then their attitude is "Big Fucking Deal".
Now that is what's going on :)
famous painter margaret keane's 1975 awake!
life-story speaks about her baptism with her daughter jane ulrich.
she mentions how her daughter progressed quickly and wanted to be a missionary.
famous painter margaret keane's 1975 awake!
life-story speaks about her baptism with her daughter jane ulrich.
she mentions how her daughter progressed quickly and wanted to be a missionary.
Some random thoughts in the comments here:
friends:.
doug mason needs no introductions here.
we all know him to be an excellent writer, such as: blondie, terry, jwfacts, barbara anderson and countless others on this board.. doug is asking for assistance on a new project he is working on to explain in terms easy to understand, the changes the watchtower now expects jehovah's witnesses and others to believe.. your expert knowledge on these subjects such as: 144,000, great crowd, order of special full time servants, and governing body would be greatly appreciated.
One important distinction is the New Covenant being only between Jesus and the 144K. The Master's 'belongings' are the Great Crowd--which incidentally, we've recently discovered--were NOT given to the FDS as previously taught, in 1919.
How many current J-Dubs are aware Jesus is NOT their Mediator directly, but that the FDS is in that role? The Bible is not for Other sheep directly, either.
Great Crowd huddle like starved mongrels at the table of the FDS begging for scraps!
It hasn't yet been clarified (at least, not to me) WHY other sheep go door to door since the Great Commission was directed at the FDS.
Perhaps we'll see this as part of the flood of 'New Light' in Watchtower as yet unpublished?
it looks like 5 of us will get together tomorrow at a starbucks on camp bowie in fort worth, texas.. this is one of those impromptu occasions which either suddenly come together or else just get jaw-jacked into a non-event:).
ricky g is a recently minted ex-jw who is moving to my vicinity from denton.
he has posted his story and other videos on youtube.
Well, we had a blast!
Ricky G showed up as a newly minted Apostate who has recently moved to Tarrant County. His wife had turned him in to the Judicial committee for apostasy! He was disfellowship about a year ago and he's trying to put his life back together due to the split with his spouse.
James Wood drove all the way over from the other side of Dallas in his Aston Martin sports car! James, as you'll recall from his record-breaking WIBBLE topic here on JW-net, has been a long time Ex-JW who was DF'd about the same time as I was in the late 70's.
Jordan was there, and I have to laugh a bit--he was so nervous and paranoid!
Jordan is the young man who, some 4 or 5 months ago, I interrupted as he was debating the Trinity with a friend at Starbucks. He was clearly a JW, and he'd said something disparaging about 'Apostates.')
Now that Jordan is 'awake' he's been reading everything he can find and making accelerated progress. He and Ricky G have been chatting on the phone lately and they were glad to finally meet.
Yes, Jordan kept looking over his shoulder, worrying he'd see somebody from his Kingdom Hall. We moved to a less high-profile table and he was able to relax a bit more :)
I was hoping One-Eyed Joe could make it, but he's forced to be wary and vigilant because of his wife's suspicions as to his Organization-loyalty. Perhaps next time, eh?
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What's important in get-togethers is this. Do not underestimate how isolated an EX-JW is psychologically. Nobody else. . . NOBODY. . . can really understand the experience of having been a Jehovah's Witness. You can't really explain it to a regular Christian. They've no idea. So, to fellowship with one of your own kind is healing, comforting, and best of all--freeing!
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Too bad it was a stag event; it's always better when you can mix with former 'sisters' as well. I'd love to discover more ex-J dubs in this vicinity. So, if any of you are out there, let me know!
I'd highly encourage any of you, regardless of where you live, to have an impromptu meetup. It only takes two to make acquaintance and form a bond of healing and encouragement. You'll be amazed at how much you share in common which is impossible to share with anybody else.
So, think about and, above all, TRY IT--you'll like it!
it looks like 5 of us will get together tomorrow at a starbucks on camp bowie in fort worth, texas.. this is one of those impromptu occasions which either suddenly come together or else just get jaw-jacked into a non-event:).
ricky g is a recently minted ex-jw who is moving to my vicinity from denton.
he has posted his story and other videos on youtube.
I've been to probably 4 or 5 get-togethers in ten years and the people are so normal I can't understand why I subconsciously expect the classic "apostate" to show up with a bandolier and hand grenades :)
If the Ex-Jdubs I've met are a sampling of the rest worldwide, the Kingdom Halls are much worse off without them. Who would want to exclude such fine people?
i found once a list on the internet on novels about the new world written by jehovah's witnesses.
don't seam to find it anymore.
does any of you happen to know any novels about the new world?
I don't know if this is exactly what you're looking for or not.
Jehovah's Witness Science Fiction novel
THE MONORAILS of MARS
“The Monorails of Mars” is certainly quite a creative, eclectic, amusing, and provocative work, on many levels. It combines a graphically descriptive narrative like that of Wilbur Smith, the unnerving twists and turns reminiscent of Alfred Hitchcock, and the degree of cosmic fancifulness of the classic series “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” and “Dr. Who” (although “The Monorails of Mars” is absolutely a unique and distinct work). It uses clever hyperbole in daring to compare rational objectivity against Orwellian-type, corporate-run American “religion” (referred to generically in the book as the “Tower” Society). It takes a cynical look at the monarchial leadership of contemporary evangelical corporate societies using somewhat macabre black humor to convey a deliciously cathartic irreverence – which many would find most fitting, deserved, and gratifying given the deceitful, self-serving shenanigans still very much alive within exclusivistic, parochial, high-control fundamentalist groups. The material is worded, organized, and presented in the manner of an astute and seasoned novelist. The content is divided into brief chapters to provide sufficient variety to keep the flow fresh and free from monotony or stagnation. The uniquely personal artwork has a stark sophistication which lends itself to the raw yet pensive theme woven throughout. The overall flavor exudes cerebral intrigue wrapped in old-school sophisticated banter yet liberally garnished with raw visceral descriptions. This book will surely satisfy the palate of any traditional or contemporary reader, and it is particularly geared toward rational, thinking folks who dare to question the operation of mind control and religio-corporate hypocrisy. Terry Walstrom’s book is an excellent and riveting read for all types and ages!
i am working on a writing project.
just give me your opinion on this subject.
if you worked for your respective government and you were tasked with doomsday preparations, what would you decide to save for future generations?
HERE ARE 10 survival bunkers
http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/10-impressive-doomsday-bunkers/
what is the most obvious thing you can think of about jehovah's witnesses from the standpoint of worldwide recognition?.
wouldn't it be 2 primary things: the name jehovah and secondly, the public testimony or witnessing?.
let's begin deconstructing those two things.. first, why would christians refer to themselves by any other name than christian?.
If you stop and think about it since the vowels FORCED into YHWH are arbitrary and the use of Adonai is pulled out of thin air as a model, the correct pronunciation of God's 'name' could well be ANYTHING.
I vote for: “YaHoo WaHoo!”