There is a word I encountered early in my attempts at Philosophy studies.
INSTANTIATION and the instantiation principle. Consider what it states and apply it to the scripture under examination.
Unless and until there is an actual instance of a thing--it doesn't exist.
The concept of a chair did not exist until a chair was first built.
Once there has been an instance of something, even if all further instances are destroyed, that thing has reality and will continue to do so.
What usually happens--AFTER the fact--is a thing becomes poetic or metaphorical or literary as a transformation because the actual instance of those things has become extinct.
Meaning?
Philosophically, SICKNESS continues to exist in exactly the way it did in Roman times and in the way it was back there known. If all sickness had been extinguished from our planet--we'd be free to "spiritualize" it or poeticize it.
Otherwise, it is illogical to do so.
TerryWalstrom
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Can someone please explain James 5:14 for me
by preymanchis ini cant seem to understand this text actually, can someone please explain it to me.
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Upcoming Tidal Wave of Media Onslaught targeting Jehovah's Witnesses ahead...
by TerryWalstrom inat least three media venues have undertaken the daunting task of unpacking the insidious dark side of jehovah's witnesses' organization.1.
douglas quenqua is a writer based in new york.
his work has appeared in the new york times, wired, redbook, and cnbc.
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At least three media venues have undertaken the daunting task of unpacking the insidious dark side of Jehovah's Witnesses' Organization.
1. Douglas Quenqua is a writer based in New York. His work has appeared in The New York Times, Wired, Redbook, and CNBC. As part of a Pennsylvania television (possible) documentary, this journalist is asking intelligent questions of seasoned activist Ex-Dubs
as to Organizational culpability in ruining former members' lives through insidious policies, lies, and cover-ups.
2. *Elizabeth Vargas, the Journalist, interviewed our own Barbara Anderson and A&E network are about to air the child molesting scandal issue delving into background machinations and ongoing lawsuits. (A recent legal filing in NY by Anderson to the Attorney General is no laughing matter.)
3. As I write these words, Leah Remini (expose' of Scientology) and A&E are taping a new series presentation on Jehovah's Witnesses with a broadside aimed at the corruption of Organization and its practices and victim impact due to child abuse mishandling.
_____*Journalist Elizabeth Vargas has announced:
Nine 60-minute episode series, two-night premiere on Monday, May 28 and Tuesday, May 29 at 10 pm ET/PTOrganizations that will be explored in Season 1 include (not in broadcast order):
- NXIVM (Series Premiere)
- Twelve Tribes
- Sanctuary Church
- United Nation of Islam
- Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
- Jehovah’s Witnesses
_______Leah Remini is at this moment heading up a new unscripted special at A&E in the works that will tackle the intricacies of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The star has a previous first-look production deal with the network to produce unscripted series following the success of her Emmy-winning show “Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.” According to The Hollywood Reporter, Remini will produce a special for the network during the break following Season 3 of the acclaimed docuseries.
It notes that Jehovah’s Witnesses, while based on Biblical teachings, have come under fire over the years for similar practices to the Church Remini left years ago. For example, practices of ousting or shunning members who have dissenting views, a blanket refusal to participate in politics and government as well as not celebrating Christmas or birthdays are all things that the special will reportedly cover. Additionally, the religion has predicted the literal end of the world several times, obviously to no avail.
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http://deadline.com/2018/05/cults-extreme-belief-ae-investigates-nxivm-series-premiere-elizabeth-vargas-1202382812/
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Watchtower Spin archives: Hayden C. Covington, J.F. Rutherford, and Muhammed Ali
by TerryWalstrom inthere are a number of salient facts concerning this man who possessed a big reputation.. 1. covington and rutherford were pretty much the type a personalities who got along famously.
in fact, rutherford wanted covington to be the next gb executive of the watchtower corporation.. 2. fred franz and nathan knorr were the polar opposites to the (above) dynamic duo.
these two would conspire to drive covington out.
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There are a number of salient facts concerning this man who possessed a BIG REPUTATION.
1. Covington and Rutherford were pretty much the Type A personalities who got along famously. In fact, Rutherford wanted Covington to be the next GB executive of the Watchtower corporation.
2. Fred Franz and Nathan Knorr were the polar opposites to the (above) dynamic duo. These two would conspire to drive Covington out. Knorr hated Covington. Knorr was anti-intellectual and Covington disdained his lack of education.
3. Both Rutherford and Covington were hard drinkers. Eventually, the drinking and bullying of Knorr would get Covington sideways with Franz and Knorr and the excuse would be given that Covington would "step down" from the Vice-President position because he wasn't of the heavenly class. This is bullshit for an obvious reason: he never claimed to be anointed in the first place, and this was never an obstacle before.
4. Having an 80%win record with the Supreme Court, Covington was sought out by wealthy Jehovah's Witness families to represent their sons who had refused Alternate Service before the courts. For a retainer of $10,000 dollars, Covington would agree.
A friend of mine who ended up in the same Federal Prison told me Covington botched his trial and cut short his presentation. Why? During his trial, Covington was offered a quarter of a million dollars if he could get Cassius Clay / Muhammed Ali out of his Draft refusal case.
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Here is the B.S. public relations spin on Covington:
"Declaring the Good News Without Letup (1942-1975)", Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom, page 91, "In September 1945, Brother Covington graciously declined to serve further as vice president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (of Pennsylvania), explaining that he wished to comply with what was then understood to be Jehovah's will for all members of the directorate and officers—that they be spirit-anointed Christians, whereas he professed to be one of the 'other sheep.'"
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5. Covington racked up 37 Supreme Court victories representing the Watchtower's interests. This gave him tremendous clout.
6. Covington had replaced Olin Moyle, who had had a huge confrontation and blow up with Rutherford. (Moyle sued Rutherford and won, but his monetary settlement was stretched out over many decades spitefully by the Society.)
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During and after the trial, Covington made ridiculous statements to the press such as this:
"I take exception to remarks that this man is under the influence of the Muslims in any way."
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Lawyer Hayden Covington took the lazy way out and suggested Ali should accept a guilty sentence and seek to make a deal with the prosecutor, Morton Susman, United States Attorney. In fact, he talked Ali into requesting that the Judge sentence him immediately!
It was this tactic which frustrated and upset Ali's first-hired attorney, Quinnan A. Hodges of Houston. It is also the reason Ali's handlers refused to pay Covington.
(Attorney M.W. Plummer andAttorney Chauncey Eskridge are the real 'heroes' of the Ali story).But first:
How was Covington's plan supposed to work?Federal District Judge Joe E. Ingraham sentenced Clay to five years in prison and fined him $10,000. This was the maximum penalty for the offense, which is a felony.
The judge's sentence was pronounced immediately at Clay's request.
"I'd appreciate it," the 25-year-old boxer said, "if the court will do it now, give me my sentence now, instead of waiting and stalling for time."
Prosecutor Morton Susman and Hayden Covington had worked out a deal, but IT WAS NOT BINDING on the Judge!
New York Time news article: "Both Mr. Covington and Mr. Hodges asked Judge Ingraham to put Clay on probation. Failing that, said Mr. Covington, the former champion should not be given a sentence more severe than those given in similar cases. "That's 18 months," he said."
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How then, did Muhammed Ali avoid serving a moment of incarceration?
The appeals process allowed his competent attorney's M.W. Plummer andAttorney Chauncey Eskridge
to pursue the real problem in the case:1.Ali's Draft Board didn't consider him to be sincere as a real minister
2. Ali failed the Army's intelligence test and did not qualify to serve
The Supreme Court in Clay v. United States reversed his conviction in 1971. (Ali’s birth name was Cassius Clay.) “[T]he Department [of Justice] was simply wrong as a matter of law in advising that the petitioner’s beliefs were not religiously based and were not sincerely held,” the opinion said. Even though Ali prevailed 8-0 before the high court, Bob Woodward and Scott Armstrong later reported in The Brethren that the justices initially voted against him, finding that he wasn’t really a conscientious objector and that he should go to jail. Apparently, one of Justice John Marshall Harlan’s law clerks loaned the justice a copy of The Autobiography of Malcolm X. Harlan read the book and changed his views on Black Muslims.
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Bottom line of all of this:
There was bad blood between Knorr and Covington, but Hayden C. Covington was a legend. The
Watchtowr Organization NEEDED HIM for publicity purposes. He was reinstated before his death.
My encounters with the Draft Board and my subsequent trial and imprisonment took place in October of 1967, after Cassius Clay / Muhammed Ali had his highly publicized clash with authorities.
I cover this in some detail in my book
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Another Hollywood Memory
by TerryWalstrom inanother hollywood memory____________________“thanks for the pink chablis, marta.
who’s that singing?
sounds familiar.”.
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Thanks. (Big smile).
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Another Hollywood Memory
by TerryWalstrom inanother hollywood memory____________________“thanks for the pink chablis, marta.
who’s that singing?
sounds familiar.”.
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This morning a coda!
5:30AM
Terry, this Christie Adams in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Marta Boutel was one of my dear friends. We met here in Honolulu in the sixties when Marta and her family vacationed here in the summer. I just found your article about Marta on the Internet.
When Marta was about 19 she had a skin cancer removed from her back. Years later, according to her brother, Jeff, Marta developed melanoma and, very tragically, died of it. Jeff later recounted to me that he flew in to see her and that she died in his arms.
He said her body turned gray. I'm so sorry to tell you of Marta's very sad ending on this earth. She was such a beautiful and bright spirit, and no doubt still is--wherever she is somewhere out there in our vast Universe.
Aloha, ChristieYou accepted Christie's request.Thank you ever so much, Christie.
As sad as this information is, there is comfort in knowing facts rather than speculation. My own Mom died of cancer. She too turned ashen grey. Three times she'd fought it and won. I don't think she thought she'd lose the final time.
As a writer, I can explore the landscape of my life and the remarkable people I've met and known by spilling it all out in black and white. Ironically, memories are never black and white. People and places have the truest colors of all. It is so good to know Marta had genuine friends such as yourself, Christie.
I firmly hold this to be true. As long as someone who loves us carries us in their heart and continues to remember who we really were--we never die.
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75 years ago Tomorrow
by snugglebunny infantastic!
but why being shown in 4k for only 1 day?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btnda1azf2c.
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The political left, perfectly captured in one short video exchange
by Simon inthis perfectly encapsulates the behaviour and opinions of the left and dave rubin nails it - "you're not oppressed, you're entitled".. lots of of shouting and claims of being denied rights to speak but nothing really to say when given a mic, just endless shouting and baseless confused claims about 'free speech'.
hey, some blm bitches try and get in on it too because, why not.. constant "i have a question, i have a question ..." as though she isn't allowed to ask it when the reality is she really has nothing to say, she just wants to stop other people being able to talk.
what a stupid cunt.. sadly, the left is indoctrinating a generation to think that *this* is what political discourse and "taking a stand" is.
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The Watchtower would not currently exist if Free Speech were practiced inside the organization.
The ignorance of the 'faithful' members must be preserved.
The 'innocent' mindset is the last stand for the GB.
The surefire method is PREEMPTIVE DISRUPTION of those who wish to ask the 'wrong' questions or point out failures and missteps--and especially sincere Elders who seek clarification of changes and policies.
THE LEFT declares all-out war and destruction against critics, seeking to stop them dead in their tracks and to slime their reputation.
The insidious effect on young people in college has been to poison the very concept of what Free Speech is or why it is essential to the preservation of a free society.
Within my lifetime, I've seen the Democrat Part as champions of freedom for dissidents, critics, and outcasts. Yet, this has unraveled.
There is the Extreme Left, the Social Justice Warriors, the Progressives who have infiltrated the Democrat wing to the point where a "moderate" Democrat is seen as Right-Wing!
Corporate money has eaten the last gulp of integrity (such as it existed).
There is little policy difference between the Left and the Right--and that is astounding to say out loud.
They BOTH favor foreign wars!
The fraudulent practices of the Democrat Party in sabotaging Bernie Sanders didn't make a blip on anybody's radar for very long.
Hillary bought and controlled the Democratic party; her people ran it; it was a "by any means necessary" policy in effect.
The result was this: DONALD TRUMP was elected--a man without a shred of character, experience, or veracity.
The silly "Russians colluded with Trump" cover story is merely a diversion from anybody taking responsibility for the Trump Presidency by virtue of the fact just enough American voters would rather have a buffoon in office than stomach an obviously compromised and unethical woman with an endless record of getting away with nasty malfeasance in her bubble of manufactured virtue. (i.e. endless list of excuses.) -
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What really happened around 1918 when WT leaders were imprisoned?
by dubstepped ini had never thought about this until just now when i saw that nathan natas posted some early tract from rutherford, and it made me think back to what little i could remember of the history i was taught.
i now know that in most cases the dubs will spin stories in their favor.
so i'm now assuming i was told some fictitious story about what happened when the leaders were thrown in prison and things looked bleak for the cult way back when.
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One of the cornerstones of the Watchtower Society's claims about the 1918 trial of Joseph F. Rutherford and seven other co-defendants, is that the trial was a travesty of justice, where the defendants were railroaded off to prison.
To make their point, the Society has repeatedly stated that Joseph Rutherford and his fellow defendants were "Exonerated" of all charges, and subsequently released from prison fully vindicated. The Society also attributed this 'victory' to Jehovah's hand in matters, restoring the symbolic 'Two Witnesses' spoken of in Revelation, and thereby, reactivating the Kingdom preaching work.
What actually transpired is that the convicted defendants filed a Petition for a "Writ of Error." (Trial Transcript, pages 1-10, parts 1-30 ) The Writ of Error was allowed by the trial Court, Judge Howe, and granted by the District Court Judge Chatfield, whom the Society earlier objected to and had removed from their trial, because they felt he would not be fair to them.
What does this mean? During the course of any trial, the defense attorney will take exceptions and objections and note any errors in procedure and practices customary to common law. If the defendants lose and are convicted, the defense attorney can use these 'errors' as a basis for appeal.
Judge Howe, who presided over the trial of Joseph Rutherford and his co-defendants, was very generous to note defense objections and exceptions, and openly stated in Court several times that he would act to preserve the rights of the defendants, and acknowledged that they could make appeals.
What then is a Writ of Error and how is it processed? "WRIT OF ERROR, practice. A writ issued out of a court of competent jurisdiction, directed to the judge of a court of record in which final judgment has been given, and commanding them, in some cases, themselves to examine the record; in others to send it to another court of appellate jurisdiction, therein named, to be examined in order that some alleged error in the proceeding may be corrected."
That is it! In this case, the Writ of Error was granted, and the case remanded back to the United States Attorney as is customary. The prosecuting Attorney then decides whether he wants to re-try the case, correcting errors or let it drop. Such 'errors' do not mean that the defendants are suddenly 'not guilty' or in any way 'exonerated,' but rather that if the case were tried, less the errors, it might possibly have a different result.
What essentially happened is that the US Attorney decided not to pursue the case, and as a result, in accordance with the Writ of Error, the Defendants were released, and the original charges were not refiled. Double jeopardy does not apply, because this goes to the matter of how the first trial made errors. If they would have had a new trial, that trial would then be treated as the 'correct' trial, and the original trial would be treated as a mistrial.
Were the errors significant, possibly suggesting that the Defendants did not get a fair trial? So far, from reading much of this 1500 page transcript, I have found nothing that jumps out as outrageous or even unfair to the defense. Most all the objections and exceptions taken by the defense were minor.
"While I do not have conclusive information as to why the US Attorney backed off and did not pursue a new trial, it appears that after WWI, the nation settled down, and going through this issue again may have seemed pointless to the Government."
(Amazing-post on JWD https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/28327/j-f-rutherford-exonerated)There you have it ... Joseph Rutherford and company were NOT exonerated, but simply let off of the hook because of procedural errors
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What really happened around 1918 when WT leaders were imprisoned?
by dubstepped ini had never thought about this until just now when i saw that nathan natas posted some early tract from rutherford, and it made me think back to what little i could remember of the history i was taught.
i now know that in most cases the dubs will spin stories in their favor.
so i'm now assuming i was told some fictitious story about what happened when the leaders were thrown in prison and things looked bleak for the cult way back when.
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Below I've assembled various items pertaining to the OP questions.
I've excerpted too from my own book, I WEPT BY THE RIVERS OF BABYLON (A Prisoner of Conscience in a Time of War)
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New York Times, May 9, 1918
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WHAT WAS STATED INSIDE THE BOOK, THE FINISHED MYSTERY?
People who display patriotism are delusional murderers acting in the very spirit of the devil. Patriotism is narrow-minded hatred of other people.Prince Bulow, Sir Henry Campbell-Bannermann, Mr. H. H. Asquith, Mr. John Jay and Mr. Elihu Root were peace-loving statesmen under a sky filled with clouds of war.
While 10,000 children in Tokyo were singing loving greetings to our naval officers, the US was gearing up for a war with the Japanese.
The naval experts of Russia are planning a billion-dollar navy even though millions of its people are on the verge of starvation.
The first expenditure of the United States government in the world war (WWI) was $7 Billion, which is 27% in excess of the value of all the crops harvested in the US.
The Germans denounce war, with the exception of the present conflict with England. England condemns war, but excludes from their indictment the present fight against the central empires.
This war (WWI) is the natural product of our unchristian civilization. Its soldiers are grown from greed, imperialistic ambition, and dynastic pride. Our participation in this war is unethical.
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Below is another good source. It tells how Rutherford requested the brothers to remove pages of the Seditious book to be torn out as an attempt to avoid jail time.http://ex-jw.com/why-judge-rutherford-went-to-prison
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A Story: "When Things Get Really Bad"
by TerryWalstrom induring the great depression in the 1930's people lost their jobs.banks closed, and long lines formed in the streets called "bread lines".people got up early and had to stand in line all day to get a free loaf of bread to feed their family!caution: do not read this story if you have empathy or compassion________ "when things get really bad".
in a cabin in the appalachian mountains, there was a family of four: two children (a boy and a girl), a mom and a dad (who had lost his job at the local sawmill).. things looked really bleak.
the children were afraid they'd starve to death.. "mommy," said the little boy, "are we going to die?".
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For those who are interested in the writing process here's something to glance at: the link above the other story was written first several years ago. It isn't much of a "story" but contains the core of what was urging me to write at the time. So, as such, it is merely a sketch.
Yesterday, I took that idea and polished it just a little--rounding it off. A beginning, a middle and--at last, a kind of open-ended conclusion.
The difference between those two versions is a pretty good example of the process...at least for me.
