If you sent the letter of DA to every member of your former congregation telling them you sent one to Bethel in their name, it would create a shit storm of controversy and backstabbing as they tried to figure out who the apostate was. In reading the letter it may open some up a little. If we all picked the same day to mail out the letters imagine the wave of shit we would stir up around the world.
Defianttruth
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Mass disassociation pact...
by freemindfade inany takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
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Mass disassociation pact...
by freemindfade inany takers?
we can pick a date and pull the plug?
lol .
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Why not send a well written letter to explain the deficiencies, corruption, lies and falsehoods to all of our loved ones all over the world. We tell them in an opening header they should read the letter in full because we sent a copy with their name on it to Bethel for them since they didn't have the will to do it themselves. It would get them to read the letter and if thousands went out on the same day they could never know who sent the letter. It is below my normal moral character, but theocratic warfare strategy and all. -
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What will you do?
by Defianttruth ini've been thinking, "what if it does fail and there is a mass exodus?".
i have been wronged and damaged greatly by these ones.
every one needs to handle this situation in his or her own way, but as for me if it does happen, i will meet them with open arms.
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I don't believe a mass exodus is in the works. I was asking a hypothetical question. I do believe this will wake some up. My personal beliefs are I would rather error on the side of kindness. -
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What will you do?
by Defianttruth ini've been thinking, "what if it does fail and there is a mass exodus?".
i have been wronged and damaged greatly by these ones.
every one needs to handle this situation in his or her own way, but as for me if it does happen, i will meet them with open arms.
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I've been thinking, "What if it does fail and there is a mass exodus?"
I have been wronged and damaged greatly by these ones. Every one needs to handle this situation in his or her own way, but as for me if it does happen, I will meet them with open arms. I will helpin any way possible. I couldn't live with myself if I met evil with evil.
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Right everyone watch this video its insane!
by username ini'm just watching this video.
now bare in mind this guy has never been a jehovah's witness so he has no investment in this cult.. https://youtu.be/_ry-onhbkya.
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I want to see these guys fall more than anyone, but this is a trust fund set up for the Watchtower. It is not a fund ran by the Watchtower. It is someone else's money and fund in which WBTS receive the profits of the fund. This fund is NOT owned by WBTS. -
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Remember that Letter to Elders that asked them to privately inquire if any of the brothers were LAWYERS.....
by Muddy Waters ini remember a thread here somewhere where a letter to the body of elders was posted and elders were to read part of the letter asking who might have experience or training in video media, graphic design, etc.
then on a separate page not to be read to the congregation was for elders to make discreet inquiries as to any who might have legal knowledge, experience or expertise.. well, in view of all this new kafluffle about branch closures, building work suspended, bethel layoffs, etc., it really makes me wonder now just what the heck is going on.
has the gb been shafted by their own legal counsel or financial advisors?
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They could have put the building on hold because of suits in the works. It's hard to say you don't have any money when you are constantly building. -
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by Defianttruth ini keep seeing references to the 750 million in sales of the nyc properties and confusion around the apparent cash flow problems of the wtbt society.
here's the reality.
if they went, to a bank and asked for loans for the buildings here's what a bank would say, "absolutely.
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Understand this is huge.
good credit+equity+revenue= loans
If they have good credit and almost a billion in equity, anyone would want to loan them money. Think about the 1970s the Governing Body believed 1975 was the end. So they are sitting on some buildings which were purchased years ago for lets say 1 million dollars. They have the properties appraised and find there is 40 million in equity they could justify taking the loans to expand. After all, the end is here. They continue with the practice of borrowing against the equity every year to cover growth until something tragic like 2008 happens. They lose their cash flow and are faced with paying a huge note with compounding interest. There is a threshold were the loans become so big new loans are created to cover the old loans. With fees and interest this would become a down hill spiral very fast. In fact the debt becomes so huge with interest and fees one is left with two choices. Bankruptcy or sell off the assets and pay off the debts.
An experienced accountant could look at their holdings and predict with some accuracy when a collapse would happen. Imagine the narcissistic, arrogant, assholes looking at a spread sheet handed to them by one of their accounting firms and they say, "look brothers the end must be here there is no way Jehovah would let us fail" and according to the numbers we only have 15 years left. I could see this motivating them to not be fiscally responsible. They are true believers in their cause. It would only push them more to pontificate their false narrative. Their failing financial problems would only embolden them to do more and not react the way a fiscally responsible organization would.
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by Defianttruth ini keep seeing references to the 750 million in sales of the nyc properties and confusion around the apparent cash flow problems of the wtbt society.
here's the reality.
if they went, to a bank and asked for loans for the buildings here's what a bank would say, "absolutely.
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Defianttruth
I keep seeing references to the 750 million in sales of the NYC properties and confusion around the apparent cash flow problems of the WTBT society. Here's the reality. If they went, to a bank and asked for loans for the buildings here's what a bank would say, "Absolutely." Are you kidding me? I would loan money on a building in good shape in that part of the world. It is better than cash. I would loan the money and hope the loan failed.
Think of how easy it would be to say brothers we need some money for this year how about we borrow 50 million against the buildings to help with the work. We still have a mortgage on the building, but we can use equity to advance the Kingdom Interest. Besides, Jehovah is behind us you know he won't let us be in need. A few of those actions later and they could have been in serious trouble. In theory they could be losing money in this sell if a lot of debt is attached to the loans. If one thinks God is behind every decision he or she makes, it could make for some ballsy decisions.
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London Concert
by Defianttruth ini was purchasing zac brown tickets for my wife and i. she's a big fan so i'm trying to treat her.
she's not really a country fan, but she some how in her eclectic taste took a liking to the band after listening to a live album.
i saw he is doing a show in london.
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I was purchasing Zac Brown tickets for my wife and I. She's a big fan so I'm trying to treat her. She's not really a country fan, but she some how in her eclectic taste took a liking to the band after listening to a live album. I saw he is doing a show in London. First off if you get a chance to go, they put on a great show. Secondly is Country music really that big in England, or is it more because he is technically a cross over artist.
Just Curious.
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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again
by Designer Stubble inguess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
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Defianttruth
Apparently(TM) the pronoun "this", which in every other written form and grammatical usage since the beginning of the written english language has always been a singular person, place, thing, idea......., in the one and only use of "this" it refers to two generations. Confused? Let the Governing Body (TM) lovingly(TM) put it to you this way. For over a millennium worldly scholars have taught the word "this" is a singular pronoun. In various languages such as Latin, Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, singular pronouns have been used. Now, we brothers know it is grammatically impossible to use a singular pronoun to represent more than one noun, but if we didn't use our super happified smarts from our average 8 grade school education, as we all know higher education is evil, we wouldn't be able to make our ecclesiology accurate. The only hope we have is you brothers and sisters are so stupid, I mean loyal, you won't even notice us raping the English Language. As you know, we are the Guardians of the Galaxy. Sorry I mean Guardians of the Doctrine(TM)......... Hold on, we can't trade mark Guardians of the Doctrine it seems those pesky Catholics beat us to it. Let me start over. As you know, we are unpresumptously God's Channel of Communication and it is impossible for us to be wrong as we are speaking for God. If you dare think about this brazen act of intellectual dishonesty at all, we will cut you off lovingly(TM) from your family by sending our executioners, I mean Dukes of the Kingdom after your ass.