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  Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  2. scandals

  this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

  i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

  a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

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  I don't believe that the FDS is a group or anything special.

  They are no more correct about that than that Catholics interpreting Matt 16 for the Pope based on the foundation of Peter.

  It is all interpreting to get their way.
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  I now hate being called 'sister'

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.

  but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".

  it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.

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  Blonde said" I hate people who hardly know me claiming kinship"

  Is anyone keeping up with the series "Under the Dome" on CBS? It is about people being lead by mind control and into a kinship. Reminds me of the organization.
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  Leaving the org and marriage possibly ending

  by atacrossroads in

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  2. friends

  i was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.

  i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.

  a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.

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  "I plan to celebrate the holidays this year "

  Why would you want to do that?
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  Bumbling idiots..... RC & JW broadcast

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  one of the contributing factors to me leaving was the realisation we were being led by idiots.

  bethel life reinforced that, middle aged ego's trying to suck up to brooklyn.

  ray franz book was a final nail for me, because he described the same incompetence along with the same ego's.

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  "They also know what they are doing with their return to joke-hova brochure"

  That brochure is like an ad from Sam's Club to the members who have not shopped for a while. They want their known, once loyal customers back.

  Whereas the regular ministry is like the Walmart ads trying to get the unknown public in as random customers.

  It's all about the customers - who are never right.
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  Judicial committee letter to elders

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  warning: this is rather lengthy.

  i thought i would post this information that i took with me to my judicial committee.

  the elders promised that we would talk about everything that was bothering me, yet, we ended up talking about less than 10% of it.

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  Rattigan350

  Those topics you brought up are old things. Nothing that the elders have any control over. Very ineffective.

  I always like to use the loss of humanity and creativity of the people and the serving the organization as the real basis for their being a cult.
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  RC Wiki article

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  is anyone in the know about the topic going to update the wiki article.

  at .

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/royal_commission_into_institutional_responses_to_child_sexual_abuse.

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  Is anyone in the know about the topic going to update the wiki article

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  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Commission_into_Institutional_Responses_to_Child_Sexual_Abuse
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  The Bible is NOT Error-Free

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

  but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

  why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

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  Viviane You wrote: 2 days ago

  I like this. First, claim "People don't know what a word means", like this...

  Simon, you like many others don't know what inspired means

  Then, proceed to tell us what someone, who you've never met, talked to, nor who wrote down what he meant, actually meant, like this...

  Prior to my writing that, I heard an interview on youtube with Kris Kristopherson and he was telling about how his song "Why Me Lord" was inspired by Larry Gatlin's singing "Help Me". He heard Larry sing and that gave him the idea for his song. There is a movie that says "Inspired by a true story". Thus, that is what the word 'inspired' means. Where the idea for the writing came from. Nothing to do with infallibility or God.

  I wrote about Paul's statement because I am so tired of people saying that Paul was inspired of God because he wrote that All Scripture is inspired of God. It obviously does not include his own writings.
  
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  Game of Thrones - Shunning

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i waited a week to avoid any spoilers.. last week's episode was harsh, to say the least.. a live burning-at-the-stake of a child to please the gods.. and yet, we have conventions taking place around the world - with bravos to those parents who sacrifice the emotional well-being of their children by shunning them.

  clap-clap-clap.. what is worse, killing them outright, or the long, drawn-out emotional sacrifice demanded by the modern-day baal, gb 2.0?.

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  I thought Shireen burning to please the Lord of Light is like their not allowing blood transfusions to please God.

  And the walk of Shame. Cersei was a terrible person but does not deserve that treatment from religious zealots. That is like the shamming from disfellowshipping.
  
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  The Bible is NOT Error-Free

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

  but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

  why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

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  Simon, you like many others don't know what inspired means. It does not mean God breathed. Inspired means where did the idea come from. What inspired that song means what event or person brought out the idea for that song. Or what inspired that movie.

  When Paul wrote that All scripture is inspired, he meant that the preChristian writings got their ideas from events that had to do with God and his people of the past, along with the inspired prophets.
  
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  Are You a 607 BCE Specialist?

  by God_Delusion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys & gals,.

  we're currently preparing for the season finale of the show (to be recorded on sunday, may 24th at 2pm eastern time nyc / 6pm uk time / 4am sydney time.. as we're going to (finally) be covering 607 bce in detail, we're looking for a specialist (or two) that can come on the show and tell everyone about this almighty doctrine.

  if you know your 587 from your 607 and why the 1914 and 1919 dates are important to jws (although most have no idea why), please send us an email to [email protected], using "i'm a 607er" in the subject line and let us know why we should pick you as a guest on the season finale.. can't wait to hear from you!.

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  Rattigan350

  I am a specialist on it.

  The Gentile Times Reconsidered is not a great book because he does not reconsider anything. He just tries to prove that 587 is the destruction of Jerusalem. But if he was reconsidering the Gentile Times, he would know that the Gentile times did not start at the destruction of Jerusalem, though that was taught by the organization since Russell. He, like the WTBTS, can't see the forest through the trees.
  

  The Gentile times started when the kings in the line of David lost their sovereignty. That happened prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in 587. The Bible says that Jerusalem was invaded and David was taken captive in the 3rd year of Jehoiakim, whose reign started 22 or 23 years prior to the destruction of Jerusalem. That invasion and Daniel was taken in 607 BCE and that started the Gentile Times because the king in the line of David became a vassel of the Babylonian king and thus was not sovereign anymore. Jehovah's throne was not subserviant to Babylon.

  Daniel knew of Jeremiah's prophesy of the 70 years of captivity. He knew when that would end because he knew when that started because he was there when it started. The 70 years ended in 537 and started in 607, when Daniel was taken