Posts by Rattigan350

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Jephthah's Daughter

by cantleave in

i have read somewhere that jephthah's daughter did not really go into temple service but was a victim of ritual sacrifice.

the bible says that after weeping over her virginity that the maidens would visit her annually.

how could they visit her if she was killed?.

Rattigan350

Peacefulpete, You took those out of context

"A human sacrifice for good of a community thru appeasement of a god? (John 18:14 "...it would be good if one man died for the people.""

Caiaphas said that as a justification to kill Jesus.

"How about a god sending his people to war where many are killed? (Judges 20)"

Those are not human sacrifices. That is just how war works. The enemy gets killed.

"Are they not human sacrifices to please a god?"

Not by God's people.

"Or the burning alive members of the tribe that behave in unapproved manner?"

Only by dragon riders.

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Jephthah's Daughter

by cantleave in

i have read somewhere that jephthah's daughter did not really go into temple service but was a victim of ritual sacrifice.

the bible says that after weeping over her virginity that the maidens would visit her annually.

how could they visit her if she was killed?.

Rattigan350

"Is Jehovah ridiculous for asking Abraham to burn Issac? And is Abraham ridiculous for trying to do it?"

Why would people question Abraham's ATTEMPT at sacrificing Isaac when it was not meant to go through to completion. It was a test of faith.

Gen 22:2 "Take, please, your son, your only son whom you so love, Isaac, and travel to the land of Mo·riʹah and offer him up there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains that I will designate to you.”"

vs 8 "To this Abraham said: “God himself will provide the sheep for the burnt offering, my son"

vs 10 "Then Abraham reached out his hand and took the knife to kill his son."

vs 11 "But Jehovah’s angel called to him from the heavens and said: “Abraham, Abraham!” to which he answered: “Here I am!”   Then he said: “Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me"

See. It was a test and Abraham passed it and it was never meant to hurt him.

Jephthah was the one that made the vow. He would not kill and burn another human from his household. So Jehovah would not want him to kill and sacrifice another human.

The problem is that people read the words in the Bible, though badly written and reading not from the writer's perspective, in a vacuum and take it without considering other texts.

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JULY 2025 STUDY WT How to Give Advice

by blondie in

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friends

i scanned this article and i saw a theme throughout it.

when info like this shows up in the study wt, you can be sure the elders are doing it wrong and the wts hits directly on what it is.

older elders do it wrong and train by word and action the newer elders to do it wrong.

Rattigan350

NotFormer, The only law is Gen 9:4 "Only flesh with its life—its blood—you must not eat"

Unfortunately people like to look to Acts 15:20,29 and not realize that the word "abstain" applied to all 4 of the prohibitions. It did not mean that the ban on eating and drinking blood was expanded in scope. The apostles even with the holy spirit, didn't have that authority. Their objective there was not to make new laws and rules. It was to state what the law was.

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Jephthah's Daughter

by cantleave in

i have read somewhere that jephthah's daughter did not really go into temple service but was a victim of ritual sacrifice.

the bible says that after weeping over her virginity that the maidens would visit her annually.

how could they visit her if she was killed?.

Rattigan350

There is no Watchtower Whitewashing.

"The text explicitly says that the vow was to offer her as a burnt offering and that Jephthah carried out his vow."

But it obviously does not mean that he killed her and burned her.

He meant that he would offer her to tabernacle service and that would be as a burnt offering that he would give.

NLT says "I will give to the LORD whatever comes out of my house to meet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”"

As a burnt offering means in place of. How could he give the person to the lord if it was dead?

ASV says " it shall be Jehovah’s, and I will offer it up for a burnt-offering." The person becomes Jehovah's and is in place of the burnt offering.

It is ridiculous that people would think that he would burn her.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

@Seabreeze "You do realize that Watchtower has indoctrinated you don't you? There are lots of dead people are in heaven. I'm going there when I die."

No, the Watchtower has no indoctrinated me. No one had one that to me.

I understand how things work.

There are no dead in heaven. There are humans who have died and then were raised as spirit beings who are now alive in heaven serving with Jesus. But you won't be one of them.

What Paul wrote in 2 Cor 5 is not factual. It is just an example of his appeasing his readers with flowery language that made them feel good. Heaven is not home for anyone. It is not home, it is the office. It is where people work, to do a job. While he and his audience of Corinthians will be raised to heaven, you can't assume that you are part of that audience. Remember that Paul didn't know that the number going to heaven would be capped at 144,000.

Also what was said in Rev 6 was in signs and symbols. It's not real.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

Duran asked "So, if you believe the resurrection has already occurred, then does that mean that you believe the 'last day' has come and the 'last trumpet' has blown?"

The first resurrection of the anointed who have died as already occurred.

What Martha mentioned about rising in the last days or actually being raised in the last days, was the resurrection to the earth. Her knowledge and understand was limited and vague, considering that the Sadducees were some of the teachers.

Paul's understanding was also limited because he was piecing things together too.

Stop relying on what people in the Bible said or wrote and understand the mechanics of the process itself.

It's simple. When Jesus became king, he resurrected the anointed who are already dead. Then during his time in the kingdom, as the anointed died they were instantly raised to heaven.
Then at the time of Rev 20:13 the resurrection to life on earth will begin and continue over the 1000 years and then what people will do matters.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

Seabreeze said "The dead in heaven are awaiting a resurrection. 2 Corinthians 5:8, which suggests believers are "away from the body and at home with the Lord"."

There are no dead in heaven. Any in heaven are alive.

Here is how it works. Everyone who has died since Abel is in Sheol/hades/hell aka the grave. Since the time of Pentecost, Christians started getting anointed with holy spirit. When they died they were still dead. When Jesus became king, he cleansed the heavens as John 14:2-6 (prepared a place for the apostles) and Rev 12 says casting out Satan from the heavens. Then those dead in Christ were raised to heaven. Then after that time, any anointed left, when they died were instantly raised to heaven.

As for 2 Cor 5. It says "For we know that" Who is that 'we'? Paul and the Corinthians. Not you or anyone in this century.

vs 5 "Now the one who prepared us for this very thing is God, who gave us the spirit as a token of what is to come" That token is the holy spirit that they were anointed with. That 'us' is Paul and the Corinthians as they were anointed with the holy spirit.

vs 8 "But we are of good courage and would prefer to be absent from the body and to make our home with the Lord" So it is what they would prefer. That is not us today.

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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

the following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.

each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.

we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.

Rattigan350

"This JW elder lost his life because of the ban on organ transplants"

It was still a choice that he made. He could have chosen to get the transplant.

Remember that health decisions and issues are private. The congregation has no business knowing such things.

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God’s wisdom in allowing bearded JWs July 25 Watchtower

by Listener in

the july 2025 watchtower has a paragraph that claims that it was the superior power and wisdom of jehovah that guided the gb into allowing jws to grow beards.. the study article is ‘can you still learn from basic bible teachings?’ under the subheading ‘jehovah is the creator’ paragraph 7 states-.

“ 7. what did rahela do to accept a change in direction?.

your answer.

Rattigan350

Shaving everyday is just part of basic hygiene like brushing one's teeth and putting on deodorant.

Wearing beards are just a sign of the laziness and rebelliousness of the people today.

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Sisters can now wear pants. Any more important changes

by Witness 007 in

alot of my witness friends were excited sisters can now wear pants and you can say hi to disfellowshiped folks but what about important stuff child molesters in the congregation you need 2 witnesses blood fractions are fine but not whole blood????

607 bce is from the 1880s wrong....anything else?

Rattigan350

You all are so mistaken.

What does celebrating wedding anniversaries and having baby showers have to do with celebrating birthdays? Wedding anniversaries are to celebrate an accomplishment as what celebrations are for. Celebrating the anniversary of one's birth is not an accomplishment. Especially for children.

It is just an excuse to have a party. And a foolish excuse when people spend hundreds of dollars on it.

"The ‘gentle times’ was a period of 42 months during which the ‘holy city’ was ‘trampled’"

No, that is not the gentile times. You didn't consider that Nathan told David that his offspring would sit on Jehovah's throne forever. But that ended when Jehoiakim lost that sovereignty. To not have that prophesy fail, Jehovah paused that for 2520 years. The Gentile times is from when it was paused until it stopped and Jesus became king because he didn't become king when he was on earth. It's that simple.