Posts by Rattigan350

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I think I may be becoming an X-X-JW

by joe134cd in

i think i may be moving on shortly.

i officially joined this web-site 12 years ago as pimo about to exit the organisation.

i had spent about a year before that, as just a none commenting member.

Rattigan350

There was a while where I was antijw, but then there is this person that I work with who was dating a guy for a couple of years, intimate non-marital relationship. Then she breaks up with him and in turn then there is hatred and retaliation and he files lawsuits against her in retaliation.

It's like every case on Judge Judy. The bottom line is what is said in 2 Tim 3:3. Not open to any agreement. Parents suing children and vice versa. Brother against sister. Boyfriend and girlfriend live together, make loans and breakup. People getting drunk and causing property damage.

People of the world don't have standards and then they make messes of their lives and this unwillingness to agree or find common ground can lead to conflict and a breakdown of relationship. I've come to see that is now how it is among Jehovah's Witnesses. There are standards and people are to seek peace and pursuit it. Contrary to what balaamsass said, it is not the Watchtower that did damage. It is trying to prevent damage. It is the world that does the damage.

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What's with the attack (counsel) on husbands with no corresponding article for wives?

by Rattigan350 in

what's with the attack (counsel) on husbands with no corresponding article for wives on the jan 2025 w that is being studied today?.

is there a point to that?.

Rattigan350

They mentioned men watching pornography, but remember. The wives need to do their part in keeping in shape and showing it.

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What's with the attack (counsel) on husbands with no corresponding article for wives?

by Rattigan350 in

what's with the attack (counsel) on husbands with no corresponding article for wives on the jan 2025 w that is being studied today?.

is there a point to that?.

Rattigan350

What's with the attack (counsel) on husbands with no corresponding article for wives on the Jan 2025 W that is being studied today?

Is there a point to that?

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Oral and Anal Sex flip flop? March 2025 Announcements and Reminders

by ukpimo in

just in.

a jaw dropping announcements and reminders for elders this month.

how can you serve as an elder and believe this organization is spirit directed after reading this letter?.

Rattigan350

"The Bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean."

The problem is that in the 1972 they said that oral sex was wrong because Paul refers to “the natural use of the female,” which some were abandoning in favor of what is “contrary to nature,” thus satisfying “disgraceful sexual appetites” and “working what is obscene.”

What makes Paul our boss? The one who says what is right or wrong? The Watchtower writers like to use the writings of the apostles because they like to have authority to lean on. That's not how it is supposed to work.

"Paragraph 9: "Being sexually demeaning. Some husbands pressure their wife to engage in sexual acts that are demeaning and that make her feel unclean or unloved.""

That again refers to oral sex as it is demeaning. See they did that without referring to Paul.

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1 Thessalonians 5:3....Prophecy ?

by HereIam60 in

i've always had difficulty understanding how watch tower interprets 1 thessalonians 5:3 as prophetic of a future event - that the nations will unite in a (false) cry that they have achieved 'peace and security' which will signal the start of the great tribulation.

whenever i've read that passage i got the sense that it is simply stating a general principle... that when people are complacent and off-guard, thinking everything is o.k., peaceful and secure then sudden unexpected events hit them harder and they don't know what to do.

when i was first coming in (1980s) i well recall the "true peace and security" book that made a big deal about the un having declared 1986 'the international year of peace'.

Rattigan350

1 Thess 5:3 is not a prophesy.

The Watchtower liked to use that scripture because they like future prophesies to lead people.

First to have a prophesy, there must be a prophet to relay it. Paul was not a prophet. Paul was a historian and he was just comparing the history of Israel from the past to how it will again play out in the future.

The nations are not the ones declaring peace and security. I was the people that did that in the past because they had temporary peace such as when Babylon went against Jerusalem and when Rome destroyed Jerusalem. Any connection to the future would be about the wild beast attacking the harlot and then a break in the action and people would declare peace and then they both would be destroyed.

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Do JWs see the org falling apart?

by ThomasDam21 in

i have been away from the jw cult for many years.

i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.

so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.

Rattigan350

What I see is the world falling apart. People play stupid games and they win stupid prizes. Ones in the organization don't do that.

Seabreeze still does not understand the theology.

No one works for salvation. Paying for sins by dying is not about trusting Jesus. It is the sentence for sin that we all have. Jesus will fix that during the 1000 year reign. There is no soul continuing on after death regardless.

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

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i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

Rattigan350

Why are you focusing on what people do? You let people stumble you?

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Oral and Anal Sex flip flop? March 2025 Announcements and Reminders

by ukpimo in

just in.

a jaw dropping announcements and reminders for elders this month.

how can you serve as an elder and believe this organization is spirit directed after reading this letter?.

Rattigan350

This should also apply to medical issues and higher education because generally people would not discuss medical issues with other or even educational things.

Also, Witness women shouldn't have adult toys either. No need for that stuff.

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Don't you just love LITERATURE truths?

by BoogerMan in

as jw's we swallowed such concoctions for years - without a single scripture provided as proof!.

w71 12/15 p. 759 - "apparently, the apostle peter was the chairman of the governing body on the festival day of pentecost of 33 c.e., and the disciple james, the half brother of jesus christ, was the chairman at a later date, according to the account in acts of apostles.

from this, and from what historical evidence there is available, the chairmanship of the governing body rotated.".

Rattigan350

The apostles and older men there were not acting as a governing body. They were not seeking or making new rules or laws.

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144,000 + 1 kings

by moomanchu in

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i wonder why so many kings are needed for the millennial reign?

the almighty governing body says 24,000,000,000 people combined from those resurrected and the survivors of the big 'a' could make it into paradise.

that gives you 1 king for every 166,665 persons.

Rattigan350

If there are 24 billion people to be resurrected and there are 365,000 days in 1000 year reign, that means that 65,753 people will be resurrected each day. Jesus spreads the work and delegates that to the 144,000 to assist.

And Blonde, why does it matter what Rutherford taught?

I like to not look at who taught want and stick to the realities.