Posts by Rattigan350

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Would I be disfellowshiped for this?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
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if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.

my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.

the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.
Rattigan350

I have a writeup on why blood transfusions and the modern medical use of blood is not against God's law as stated in Genesis. Not based on medicals but based on legals and fairness. If it is God's law, then only God can expand it to include other things than eating it. Neither the apostles nor the president and vice president of the WTBTS nor the governing body has the authority to expand the scope of it otherwise they would be like the pharisees in adding to God's law.
I'd like to send it in to the Watchtower and see what their response would be but I would need a fake name and return address for reply so they don't send it to the elders of any congregation.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in
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2. beliefs
.......you will experience a fate worse than death!

you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.

you've got one month to change your mind.
Rattigan350

Boogerman said "Virtually every human who has ever lived, wiped out all of their sins via their own death - they didn't need Christ to die for them."
You are missing the point. The wages of sin is death, so when someone dies, the sin is paid for.
The point of Christ's sacrifice and thus the memorial is for the removal of death and the providing for the resurrection.
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WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
.......you will experience a fate worse than death!

you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.

you've got one month to change your mind.
Rattigan350

" If willful disregard of the ancient Passover was punishable by death"
Is it talking about the first passover or the annual celebrations?
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Submission and stupid rules
by Lady Lee in
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2. beliefs
what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.
Rattigan350

Yes, it’s true about men and how frequently they think about sex. When I was younger I had asked a boyfriend how often he thought about sex. His answer shocked me. Like you, I would not want to have their ‘anatomy’ and constantly distracting thoughts.
Since the purpose of life is to create more life - Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth. Men are just doing what we were made to do. I don't understand what women think about all of the time if not to become mothers and fulfill their roles.
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No Private Beliefs Allowed!
by BereanThinker7 in
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2. beliefs
looking for references that talk about witnesses not being able to hold any private interpretation or belief that isn't in line with official doctrine.

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i know i've seen them before but of course now i can't find any of the more in your face statements..
Rattigan350

I have a problem with the phrase people will use
"Do you know more than the governing body?"
Why place a limit on what we are to know?
Isn't a teacher supposed to teach the students more than what the teacher knows?
And it's not that the governing body knows more than than anyone else. It's that they have the power over the people.
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Is The watchtower Dishonest When It comes to the Trinity?
by RevFrank in
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2. beliefs
in 1989 the watchtower society published a 32-page booklet entitled "should you believe in the trinity?

" the aim of this publication was to discredit the christian doctrine of the triune nature of god.

the method that the society used to accomplish this goal was to quote from a plethora of resources, both secular and religious, such as dictionaries, encyclopedias, books and historical literature written by individual authors.
Rattigan350

Why would I care about any of those quotes that the OP made?
The trinity is just not possible regardless of what anyone back then said.
People say that Jesus is or was God but they forget that The reason Jesus came to the earth was to be a perfect sacrifice and a perfect priest to offer it.
To teach people that reason Jehovah gave Israel a lesson for 1500 years by having them build a temple and offer sacrifices to show how it would work and why they would need that. This is a much better lesson than what any of the apostles wrote.
God gave his son to be a sacrifice; a replacement for the bulls and goats. The sacrifice is or was not God since God was the one that accepted the sacrifice. And under no temple arrangement, whether preChristian, Christian or pagan has God ever acted as his own high priest.
Disproving the trinity is that simple.
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What Will JW's Do If They Find Themselves Still Conscious after Death?
by Sea Breeze in
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2. beliefs
we all know that despite many scriptures to the contrary, jw's believe that when they die, their consciousness will cease.

my question is this: what will be the likely reaction of jw's if they find themselves conscious after death?.
Rattigan350

If they are conscious, then they are not dead.
A person can not be called Dead and still yet be alive.
Seabreeze is confused with those scriptures listed about lake of fire, Rich man and Lazarus. As it was said, No one is punished for eternity consciously for 840 months of life.
People are dead, until the resurrection.
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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.
by Sea Breeze in
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2. bible
my big one was: .

rev.

20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
Rattigan350

"Some miserable bald 'prophet' that got bears to brutally murder children because he had hurty feelings."
That never bothered me. I thought that was cool. Got to teach those brats.
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What Is happening to watchtower This days?
by Hellothere in
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2. bible
i'm a believer.

believe in blessed or cursed.

what is happening to watchtower is my question.
Rattigan350

The JW brochure is not for the public ministry. It is for those who ask about JW beliefs and practices.
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Scriptures That Bothered You as a JW Kid.
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. bible
my big one was: .

rev.

20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
Rattigan350

"Rev. 20: 5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.""
I asked the person studying with me about this.
It means that the people won't be fully perfect and sinless until the end of the 1000 years. They will be 'dead' as in having some sin, until the end of the 1000 years.