This topic reminds me that the elders are like the high sparrow and the others who hear accusations and then accuse and try to get that one to CONFESS and then try the person, all the while telling the person it is the God's that are knowing and seeing and directing.
Rattigan350
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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Acts 15:29 - "keep abstaining from blood"
by aqwsed12345 infor a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
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Rattigan350
Easyprompt why are you arguing about blood fractions?
God has no law against the medical use of blood.
The only law is Gen 9:4.
The apostles and older men were not a governing body. Even with the holy spirit's help they can not expand the scope of Gen 9:4. Only God can. And he has not done that.
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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Rattigan350
People are not disfellowshipped for offenses. Any of those such offenses are sins deserving of death with is no different than the sin we are born with.
People are disfellowshipped for not adhering to Christian principles of repentance towards any sin.
And celebrating birthdays is just plain worldly.
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The Watchtower—Study Edition | July 2023
by RULES & REGULATIONS instudy article 31.
“be steadfast, immovable”.
11 at times, we might reason that the direction jehovah gives us is not sufficient.
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Every time I see Jack Smith, the special prosecutor for Trump, I think if I were on that grand jury, I would tell him that I don't trust a damn thing you are saying because you have a beard. I trust Trump because he doesn't. (though Don Jr does)
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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Rattigan350
There is no such thing as a "Disfellowshipping offense".
People aren't disfellowshipped for 'offenses'.
They get that from 1 Cor 6:9,10 but Paul got those things from Israel's history, such as Sodom and Gomorrah. But were the homos within those cities destroyed because of their offenses? Or because they didn't flee for their safety?
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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Rattigan350
What I don't understand is this "I did not forgive his adultery so I kicked him out, filed for divorce and went to the elders." You ask the elders to be forgiving toward you, but you didn't show forgiveness towards him. I think Jesus had an illustration about that.
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The Watchtower—Study Edition | July 2023
by RULES & REGULATIONS instudy article 31.
“be steadfast, immovable”.
11 at times, we might reason that the direction jehovah gives us is not sufficient.
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Rattigan350
Why does this subject of beards keep popping up?
It is not a rule. I don't need anything from the organization telling me not to have a beard to know not to have one.
They are uncomfortable and make me look older. I don't want that.
Same with alcohol. I don't need the Bible telling me anything about alcohol.
It is expensive, and has harmful results and tastes bad.
People should be smart enough to know what works and what doesn't without being told to from God.
But I agree that the organization has become the pharisees and they post paragraphs like that to cover up that truth. God doesn't monitor what people do or dont' do. He doesn't keep records of our activities and get offended by what we do.
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Ecclesiastes 9:5 -"the dead know nothing at all"
by aqwsed12345 inthe narrator of the book of ecclesiastes had very little knowledge of many things that jesus and his apostles later preached.
the author does not make statements, but only wonders (thinks, observes, often raises questions, and leaves them open).
he looked at the world based on the law of moses and found nothing but vanity, as the earthly reward promised in the law did not always accompany good deeds and earthly punishment for evil deeds.
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Rattigan350
How can the dead know anything? At death the circuits are turned off. Like when you turn your computer off, the RAM loses power and everything in memory is gone. The brain is more like an EPROM, where instructions are remembered after power is turned off and when power is turned back on, it can continue with the instructions that it has in its programming. That is what it is like when a person is resurrected.
But people people haven't been resurrected since the apostles day so none of the EPROM brains have been repowered. So they dead know nothing.
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Why do JW apostates tend to be activists against the religion?
by Vanderhoven7 inj. arden writes.
first of all an apostate is literally just someone who left.
most jws are technically apostates from the religions they were raised in.
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Rattigan350
The word "apostate" is a stupid word as it means many things from different perspectives.
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Aside from the alleged "composite Sign", what is the scriptural evidence for Christ's 1914 presence?
by Vanderhoven7 inmy take is: 1914 is not biblical since no dates are in the bible.
a hodgepodge of scriptures are ingeniously linked together; then stir in about 9 creative assumptions to arrive at a speculative theory on which to base wts authority.. nathan knorr to fred franz.
"there are some things that i know.
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Rattigan350
The Watchtower said it was.
The Watchtower is scripture.
Scripture is defined as "something written"
or "a body of writings considered sacred or authoritative"